FilePlanet 'mid-April'

[xceed]

So we were told that there will be limited beta >>read the last part<< (http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/enemy-territory-quake-wars/777833p2.html) , Gamespy=Fileplanet got our hopes up, and poof! we got May now, and we got nothing.

Does anyone actually know what went wrong? All we know is that clanbeta thingy is around the corner or just started.

I think we need some update on that topic.

[DarkangelUK]

You should be contacting fileplanet regarding this as, as far as i know, id software/splash damage/activision never announced any such beta.

[Infiltrator]

Contacting? Nuke them I say. All they did was spread false info to get subscribers.

[exoteror]

so far it's only speculation when it's released., Im hopeing it is very soon can't wait to play it.

[Pseudo]

Lets break this down so everyone can see how Fileplanet steals money.

Enemy Territory: Quake Wars will have a limited public BETA of around 50 to 60 thousand people this month according to sources at Gamespy. Gamespy stated that the BETA will be available via fileplanet sometime this April. The BETA itself has been confirmed by Activision, however there has been no official confirmation that it will be a fileplanet exclusive.
--> Notice here how this portion is fitted into the block with Activision's, as if Activision confirmed the Mid April date which it didn't. They only confirmed a beta, and everyone here knows there has been a closed beta going on for some time to test the game.

For gamers dying to check out Quake Wars themselves, the good news is that a limited public beta (maybe 50,000-60,000 people) is scheduled to come to Fileplanet in mid-April. There's no word on what maps might be included, but we're guessing "Valley" will be in there somewhere, and possibly a second map if we're lucky.

--> This here is complete lies, and simply to keep your focus off of the small little deception play they just pulled on you.

This really upset me and hate to see that Splash Damage would sit by and let Gamespy profit off their logo by telling the public that they might have a beta in mid April.

[Monkmonkman]

Good thing I didn't get a FP account, I was seconds away from getting one :P

[Infiltrator]

I would never get it until they actually had the beta, but this was a slap in the face to all the people that did pay.

[murphIV]

yeah gotta drum up some sales I guess...lamespy:p

[dzjepp]

I was looking forward to this as well. Oh well

[Pseudo]

Exactly, and while I don't hold Splash Damage at fault I feel that their silence in the matter was enough for me to look differently at them and how far I go to ensure I purchase their products.

[Vash!]

I would never get it until they actually had the beta, but this was a slap in the face to all the people that did pay.

Agree, Im glad they didnt steal my money:)

[Hauger]

Me too. We should all nuke them :P

[Viperkhan]

I'm still hoping the client that does eventually arrive there is free for all, that'd be great.

[fusen]

I'm doubting it'll be subscription only, that'd be a major wrong turn by activision

[Squishy]

I signed up just for the demo, but in the meantime I just downloaded everything I could find on their site and then just deleted it. I can assure you it cost FP waaayyy more than $7 or $8 in bandwidth alone for the 100+ GB I downloaded in the past few weeks, just out of spite :p

Besides, I spend more than $8 on lunch everyday, it's just the principle.

[EG|Element]

Im expecting it to come very soon :)

[Infiltrator]

I signed up just for the demo, but in the meantime I just downloaded everything I could find on their site and then just deleted it. I can assure you it cost FP waaayyy more than $7 or $8 in bandwidth alone for the 100+ GB I downloaded in the past few weeks, just out of spite :p

Besides, I spend more than $8 on lunch everyday, it's just the principle.


Yea, but look at how much bandwidth is used up on.. say.. gamershell? So we got GH on one side and FP on the other.

GH - no stupid registration, no subscription, always has free slots.

FP - stupid registration, subscription, never has free slots for non-payers.

Hmmm, which one am I going to download from.. decisions, decisions..

[Nail]

http://ftp.freenet.de/pub/4players/hosted/et/Nail/dancingchicken2.gif

[Squishy]

Yea, but look at how much bandwidth is used up on.. say.. gamershell? So we got GH on one side and FP on the other.

GH - no stupid registration, no subscription, always has free slots.

FP - stupid registration, subscription, never has free slots for non-payers.

Hmmm, which one am I going to download from.. decisions, decisions..

Though I appreciate GH, they get a whopping 0 exclusives each month.

I've never paid for a sub for any download site, but I did in this case. That's how much I want to play this game.

[fusen]

bittorrent! when will distribution sites learn :/

[wn.]

bittorrent! when will distribution sites learn :/

id software at least has their own BT tracker. Its a start, I guess.

[Pseudo]

I signed up just for the demo, but in the meantime I just downloaded everything I could find on their site and then just deleted it. I can assure you it cost FP waaayyy more than $7 or $8 in bandwidth alone for the 100+ GB I downloaded in the past few weeks, just out of spite :p

Besides, I spend more than $8 on lunch everyday, it's just the principle.

Ya I did the exact same thing, with at 400+kb download rate, I had almost all my friends log into my account and start downloading whatever they wanted. While I was downloading large random patchs, you name it while I was sleeping.

[DeePsix|501]

My clan mates and I have been checking Fileplanet twice a day, still no beta. I need QuakeWars...

[alvin]

bah :mad: i didn't read that carefully when i signed up. oh well i hope it gives some kind of advantage because from what i understand, only members get FP betas.

[Kamikazee]

I would never get it until they actually had the beta, but this was a slap in the face to all the people that did pay.
They paid for a premium account which offers them more bandwidth, less waiting, etc.
The demo was only a bonus, reserved for some lucky few from the start. That should have been clear from the small print.

This topic should be locked, it has been discussed to death. Start a thread when there is actual news about this. ;)

[Strogg]

Kinda sucks that a company like Fileplanet would advertise a beta for Quake Wars In "Mid April" and have people pay a price to join and "NOT" deliver the beta. What a "RIP OFF!!" :mad: Id called that "False Advertising". Just wonder if their could be some type of legal issue here hummmm.

[fusen]

They never said they would require people to subscribe so that they could be apart of the beta. It's up to the user if they chose to pay or not.

[Buzz]

My 2 cents on the subject:

First, the money argument... Dont want to deceive anyone on my first visit here, but you have to understand that money is the key presently in gaming business. I often heard and read arguements like (Hey, my money... for this and for that) and lots where valid one BUT you have to admit that gaming is still, probably one of the less expensive hobby that there is right now, even if games cost millions to produce. Thats all cause of everyones thats involved in this business (including services compagnys like Fileplanet/Gamespy ect...). You dont want a FP account, good you dont need one, but understand that those who have one pay a little part to make games affordable like they are...

Second:I think that QW/ET needs every helps it can get in its fight against the real mean machines (like EA) and all exposure can be good, to a certain mesure.

I`ve seen great games-mods (like PoE1 and PoE2, Battlezone 1, and Battlezone 2) who just didnt made it cause they didnt had anough exposure. Fileplanet, like most other compagnys in this industry want there share of the cake... but there moves are not complete evil. The bottom line is QW/ET needs there help.

QW/ET should own...

[sOmA]

I also paid a subscription to FP in hopes that I would get to play QW a bit early. I should have known better. The wording used regarding the beta is purposely confusing and it is possible it could be considered "false advertising".

I am not going to throw my toys out of the pram at SD, it's just a little dissapointing. I will never be visiting FP again. They are dead to me. ;)

[W4CGunner]

You should be contacting fileplanet regarding this as, as far as i know, id software/splash damage/activision never announced any such beta.

Deal is GameSpy/IGN is about the largest game site, and thus they have a lot of clout. I was also informed by a GS senior editor that a beta was going to be released to FP subscribers on a first come, first server basis scheduled for mid April just like the article mentions. After FP got raked over the coals for giving out a release date for the beta of STALKER that was canceled a day before its release date, FP is no longer post and dates. One has to wonder that if FP had it scheduled for a mid April release, has the game been delayed once again. SD/ID news articles say "a demo will be released a couple of weeks before the game is released". FP was not talking about a demo, but rather the beta. I think because of the learning curve involved for ETQW, it would be more appropriate to have a demo be released a month before the retail.

[fusen]

well if fileplanet do distribute the beta they'll need to get it all sorted their end if they are in charge of beta keys.

So they'll most likely need a turnaround time where sd send a build to fp and fp get it ready, seeing as there have been a few missed deadlines on SD's side, I'm guessing that is where the fault is

[Lanz]

I certainly wouldn't buy a FP account based on what they say about anything, they want people to join their service and that's all. Even if I did, there's no guarantee that I would actually be fast enough when it's released to get a key from them. And besides, nowhere did it say that it was an FP exclusive deal.

I rather stare at this http://ftp.freenet.de/pub/4players/hosted/et/Nail/dancingchicken2.gif untill a proper demo is relased tbh.

[Viperkhan]

Stores and sites like FP shouldn't be allowed to post fake/temporary release dates leading people on to sign up or pre-order without no idea of when to expect the product. The developers should react.

[KlosterKatten]

The whole idea with paying per month to get access to beta-tests is so bizarre i want to puke.

Beta-tests is supposed to be something to stress-test the game before it goes gold. Instead its put into a commercial gimmick for a "pay-to-play before its released" access.
I would never look serious on a game that did it, so im glad Splash Damage didnt/dosent care, it raises my respect for them.

[GSI-Fargo]

Hey all!

Any messaging about the date of the beta was a mistake to publish. Have you ever worked with an id Product before? "When it's done" applies to EVERYTHING. ;)

Still, if you guys ever have any questions about any GameSpy/IGN sites or services, don't hesitate to contact us. (Instead of posting theories in the forums.) Our customer support folks get back to you almost always within 24 hours. Or you can email me directly -- fargo -at- fileplanet.com. I'm a little sloppy with getting back to everyone right away but I DO try to answer all my emails.

We're not some wierd faceless corporation trying to fool people, we're a bunch of people trying to run a great download service over here. That includes bringing betas to people, which are notoriously delayed sometimes.

Thanks for listening!

-Dave 'Fargo' Kosak
Editor-in-Chief FilePlanet.com

[Viperkhan]

A lot of people probably signed up for QW beta only.

Not to even mention that the beta had been delayed on the main page where the original "TEASER" for Quake Wars was is not good customer treatment. Forcing people to have to query about it is not good. Even if you answer within 24 hours or not. A mistake should be admitted at the very least when something like this happens.

[phray]

A mistake should be admitted at the very least when something like this happens.
he just did!

Any messaging about the date of the beta was a mistake to publish.

[KlosterKatten]

A mistake should be admitted at the very least when something like this happens.

Any messaging about the date of the beta was a mistake to publish.

I would take that as a "We were wrong" message.

Edit:

Ah Phray was before me :)

[Viperkhan]

KlosterKatten, They should have written that with huge letters on their main page where all their subscribers visit. Not just here. That was my point! Clearly some people wasted money there.

[Lanz]

KlosterKatten, They should have written that with huge letters on their main page where all their subscribers visit. Not just here. That was my point! Clearly some people wasted money there.
I agree completely. That's just bad customer service.

[[ls.leodavinci]]

well... feel like a fool that I subscribed, but it happened before @ fileplanet... so I should have known better.

They posted "scheduled" ... an average gamer should know better: how many times do publishers/modmakers delay games or beta's... a lot, like any "project"

We just have to wait and see... and be less stupid :)

[Viperkhan]

When payment is handled through subscriptions, and not per bought "product/service" selected - I think it is wrong that the customers should take the blame like you seem to be doing leodavinci. The incentive, the motivation for subscribing, was given by FP. The only thing you did wrong was to trust Gamespy/Fileplanet when they wrote on at least two occations that a beta would arrive before the end of April. It should be possible to trust larger sites like these. If you had bought any other product/service, at least in this country it would be possible to demand your money back.

A good way to go about things would be to not announce anything before the date was "FINAL" or they had the QW Beta in their hands. That goes for software stores as well, with their temporary release dates that often have no anchor in reality.

[fusen]

although you do have to admit, if sd or id told fileplanet that they were expecting the beta to be up by mid april and then it was sd/id that delayed the game for whatever reason, you can't fully blame fp

[Viperkhan]

Then I'd have to repeat that Fileplanet announcing the delay ASAP after knowing about the delay would have been the right thing to do, and yes, the Beta was/is set up to be a subscribers only event, which might at a later date become free for all.

[JiggaJigga]

These people are just as bad as EA. They would do anything to get your money. Anyone who is that desperate for money never tries when it comes to video games. Bunch of crooks, makes me sick.id splash damage and activision are probably the best companies in the world. They aren't crooks after your money. They want people to have fun.

BURN IN HELL EA!!!

[Laronzo]

Wow, I have lost what little respect I had toward Fileplanet. :mad:

Laronzo. :)

[W4CGunner]

I certainly wouldn't buy a FP account based on what they say about anything, they want people to join their service and that's all. Even if I did, there's no guarantee that I would actually be fast enough when it's released to get a key from them. And besides, nowhere did it say that it was an FP exclusive deal.

I rather stare at this http://ftp.freenet.de/pub/4players/hosted/et/Nail/dancingchicken2.gif untill a proper demo is relased tbh.

When ever FP has a beta, its an exclive deal, you're missing out on how much clout GameSpy, IGN, FP, GameStats, AskMen, 3DGamers, etc, etc, the list goes on and on. If I told how much it cost for just a quarter of half page add on their site, your jaw would drop, and you fall out your chair. I've been a paid suscriber to FP for years, and I can't begin to tell you the betas I have played and tested long before the public every saw a demo, and its always an eclusive deal. There are all kinds of paid download sites out there, I've tried most and always came back to GS/FP because their hard to beat. If you game a lot and download a lot of files, and mods, it's well worth it to me to pay $40/year for FP.

[rfisher983]

Activision / Id software / Splash Damage should just give the beta to anyone who has pre-ordered the game. That is what Company of Heros did after the first initial release of the public beta.

[ruE]

wow that really blows..... thanks for the breakdown Pseudo :cool:

[umulamahri]

WOW this sucks

I never have liked the way they do things, like whaiting in line for nonmembers.

Looks like file planet is only good for old nude mods!! LOL

[Nail]

I use their free servers, works ok for me. If I wanted/needed the fast access, higher speed downloads, it's a reasonable if not cheap price. Throw in the exclusives and pretty good deal. I kinda think they didn't purposefully try and extort money from anyone, they still offered value for money

[kush]

A very weak stunt on Gamespy/IGN (all same nowdays no?) part. Can't believe I signed up for Fileplanet account based on their preview. Always been a PQuake fan.

Still very excited, looking to the future!

[skorpan]

So we were told that there will be limited beta >>read the last part<< (http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/enemy-territory-quake-wars/777833p2.html) , Gamespy=Fileplanet got our hopes up, and poof! we got May now, and we got nothing.

Does anyone actually know what went wrong? All we know is that clanbeta thingy is around the corner or just started.

I think we need some update on that topic.


*File planet* dude... says it all... they suck even more then EA.

[CodE-E]

bittorrent! when will distribution sites learn :/

Blizzard use BitTorrent as their official distribution protocol for their World of Warcraft (9+ million paying subscribers) files, so it's definitely already being used for, shall we say, constructive purposes. :)

As for the whole "Mid-April ET:QW FilePlanet Beta", well, it's too bad that was a lot of bullsh!t. That semi-official announcement in that GameSpy (owner of FilePlanet) article about that beta was very unprofessional, and possibly a sinister attempt at getting more people to subscribe to FilePlanet. I never liked FilePlanet in the first place - now I dislike them even more!

[FoX]

Hi there,

This beta has been pushed back to later this month.

We are sorry that you have been inconvenienced.

Regards,

John Hoffman
Customer Support Specialist
Digital Distribution


i´ve got the answer from fileplanet on 1st may. Nice move to get more money :(

[Pseudo]

I'm going to also send Fileplanet a email regarding this, just to see if I get a similar response. If we fail to see it fall through agin, I'll simply compile all the lies into yet another email and ask for my money back! :D

[Rampant]

Hi there,

This beta has been pushed back to later this month.

We are sorry that you have been inconvenienced.

Regards,

John Hoffman
Customer Support Specialist
Digital Distribution


i´ve got the answer from fileplanet on 1st may. Nice move to get more money :(

Maybe i wont regret subscribing to FP after all. Im not holding my breath though.

[jo90]

Hey all!

Any messaging about the date of the beta was a mistake to publish. Have you ever worked with an id Product before? "When it's done" applies to EVERYTHING. ;)

Still, if you guys ever have any questions about any GameSpy/IGN sites or services, don't hesitate to contact us. (Instead of posting theories in the forums.) Our customer support folks get back to you almost always within 24 hours. Or you can email me directly -- fargo -at- fileplanet.com. I'm a little sloppy with getting back to everyone right away but I DO try to answer all my emails.

We're not some wierd faceless corporation trying to fool people, we're a bunch of people trying to run a great download service over here. That includes bringing betas to people, which are notoriously delayed sometimes.

Thanks for listening!

-Dave 'Fargo' Kosak
Editor-in-Chief FilePlanet.com

Its taken you over 2 weeks to admit it was a mistake, and you expect 1 lousy post to make any real diff, as soon as you realised perhaps you should have changed the article, hmm funny tho you didnt is that perhaps because the traffic on your website increased giving you more money? Hee i like the bit about pm'in you so dont want your dirty laudry out for the whole world to see

You are a faceless corp, when ever i go onto your website all i see is hundreds and hundreds of ads everywhere, click something ohh more ads popup and you expect ppl to pay for this service

[Pseudo]

Faceless? More like Brainless, mindless zombie not even worth calling something close of a company. Dave 'Fargo' Kosak Editor-in-Chief of nothing.

[danuker]

Hmm, if the beta is going to be late May, wouldn't that mean a late June release for the ETQW at the very least in order to squeeze the demo in as well? Oh noz.

[W4CGunner]

Enough ripping on FP, lets get the facts straight, the mid April release was posted by someone from GameSpy and NOT somone at FP. GS was in LA for the hands-on preview and at the end of the article, made the mid April release comment, and probably didn't have his facts straight. Even though the are all one big company, they probably are seperately run departments.

The SD/ID release stratedgy of "when its done, its done, just leaves everything hanging. Web sources are still pointing towards June 6 for the retail, and if everything is on schedule at SD, then we'll probably see a demo somtime in the next two weeks.

[Pseudo]

Enough ripping on FP, lets get the facts straight, the mid April release was posted by someone from GameSpy and NOT somone at FP. GS was in LA for the hands-on preview and at the end of the article, made the mid April release comment, and probably didn't have his facts straight. Even though the are all one big company, they probably are seperately run departments.

The SD/ID release stratedgy of "when its done, its done, just leaves everything hanging. Web sources are still pointing towards June 6 for the retail, and if everything is on schedule at SD, then we'll probably see a demo somtime in the next two weeks.

Retraction
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Don't defend con artist.

[BigSteve(AWG)]

I have comcast and FP is free with my internet service. For the price $0 I pay it's an OK service. I would never pay for it.

[alvin]

Hmm, if the beta is going to be late May, wouldn't that mean a late June release for the ETQW at the very least in order to squeeze the demo in as well? Oh noz.

They need at least a couple months of public beta testing to find/fix things, then the demo, then the game.
If the beta is out mid-May my guess for "going gold" would be mid-September.

:eek:

[Zaknifar]

They need at least a couple months of public beta testing to find/fix things, then the demo, then the game.
If the beta is out mid-May my guess for "going gold" would be mid-August.


And why would they need that? Do you see open beta phase on every single game there is? I know I dont. They've had closed beta going for months afaik, and lots of ppl playing it all the time anyways. That'll give them easily as much information as they need. They don't even need to release demo of the game. Those things are just additional fun for the community to play while waiting for the game. Open beta ofc is a phase where you can contribute by helping them find problems and bugs (and balance things etcetc), but if they have a good closed beta group already, and other ppl who test the game even while I'm writing this, they don't _need_ to release a public beta.

edit: btw, it's not a MMORPG (http://community.enemyterritory.com/forums/showthread.php?t=407) ;)

[Skarum]

a couple of months of beta testing :eek:

I haven't seen a game were they tested a couple of months. Perhaps there will be no beta and the demo will be released instead, since they are running the closed beta for a while.

[HAVOK#24]

i want my beta and i want it now!!!j/k i just want the game allready!!

[Pseudo]

Ya a public beta might last at the most one to two weeks.

[Ace101]

I personally think a public beta will not be relased, it will just be a demo. Makes sense if the game is supposed to come out in about a month.

[Pseudo]

I personally think a public beta will not be relased, it will just be a demo. Makes sense if the game is supposed to come out in about a month.

Personally think your wrong since nothing is supposed to come out. Since we expect a play test before gold, I think we can assume its a beta and not a demo. However I really don't want to argue whats politically correct with you.

[Hezzy]

Don't defend con artist.

Oh, damn! He conned me out of my £2.50 for this month's fileplanet subscription! Now I can't buy myself two big bags of Haribo Starmix and a can of Dr Pepper!

PREPARE YOURSELF, GAMESPY LEGAL TEAM. THIS BATTLE WILL BE LONG AND ARDUOUS. HEADS. WILL. ROLL. :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Mung]

This is why I will never get a fp account, bastards.

[Maj.Damage]

Lets break this down so everyone can see how Fileplanet steals money.

Enemy Territory: Quake Wars will have a limited public BETA of around 50 to 60 thousand people this month according to sources at Gamespy. Gamespy stated that the BETA will be available via fileplanet sometime this April. The BETA itself has been confirmed by Activision, however there has been no official confirmation that it will be a fileplanet exclusive.
--> Notice here how this portion is fitted into the block with Activision's, as if Activision confirmed the Mid April date which it didn't. They only confirmed a beta, and everyone here knows there has been a closed beta going on for some time to test the game.

For gamers dying to check out Quake Wars themselves, the good news is that a limited public beta (maybe 50,000-60,000 people) is scheduled to come to Fileplanet in mid-April. There's no word on what maps might be included, but we're guessing "Valley" will be in there somewhere, and possibly a second map if we're lucky.

--> This here is complete lies, and simply to keep your focus off of the small little deception play they just pulled on you.

This really upset me and hate to see that Splash Damage would sit by and let Gamespy profit off their logo by telling the public that they might have a beta in mid April.

I remember when File Planet advertised that, saying they had 50,000 beta passes to giveaway, it was on Splash Damage's public forums. I thought it was for real and got pissed that they were selling beta passes!

I am so glad I didn't subscribe to that, I know how those sites are and when I read their fine print I knew it was just another scam. Still, the people who lost their money should try to get it back if possible.

[nutcrackr]

yeah I don't think I'd ever sign up to file planet unless I was utterly convinced that there was a beta either through another party or if the download was up. They naturally want to get people to sign up early to get more money.

[jeeves]

the worst part was sd sitting here and letting tons of people do it knowing damn well that it was false. very shady.

[BuldozerX]

1. Beta ETA = When it`s almost done :D
2. Beta ETA = When Splash Damage dont lie and just release it

[igl]

the worst part was sd sitting here and letting tons of people do it knowing damn well that it was false. very shady.

Activision made the deal, as they are responsible for all marketing moves. Blame them for this.

People should just ignore/boykott it, but people have no principles and sign-up anyway. That makes this stuff work over and over and over...

[Sainted]

Exactly, and while I don't hold Splash Damage at fault I feel that their silence in the matter was enough for me to look differently at them and how far I go to ensure I purchase their products.

Do you think SD have the right to tell you everything they want about this game? Everytime something from ET:QW goes public its probably discussed with both Activision and id Software. SD are creating the game, they are not marketing it.