View Full Version : Getting your cov ops to "Deploy a RADAR"..
F_A_F
10-26-2007, 09:56 AM
:dance: :dance: :dance:
Comedy answers are particularly welcome, especially those including "dark matter cannon/hammer to TK the idiots on the hillside"...
Discuss:
yulaw
10-26-2007, 11:00 AM
i ask kindly in the team chat, if they dont resond a quick team kill comes there way followed by a wtf why you kill me. The radar soon gets deployed :-)
cyberfranck
10-26-2007, 01:14 PM
actually on FF on server i often hammer my stupid sniper right on their face. He complain and start kick vote. Who care the vote doesn't pass the other guy approved what i did :D
Ifurita
10-26-2007, 05:40 PM
i ask kindly in the team chat, if they dont resond a quick team kill comes there way followed by a wtf why you kill me. The radar soon gets deployed :-)
Should be expanded to, "we didn't have a radar up, so I thought you were a bad guy."
ToKillaman
10-26-2007, 07:47 PM
Should be expanded to, "we didn't have a radar up, so I thought you were a bad guy."
I am so going to use this excuse. :dance:
samsho5
10-26-2007, 09:58 PM
stand in front of the snipers rifle barrell, maybe he can point out some baddies for you )
GorkerMorker
10-26-2007, 10:18 PM
Keep dropping healthpacks in front of his scope.
timestar
10-27-2007, 01:19 AM
When he runs out of ammo and demands you give him more, drop your airstrike marker on him instead of ammo 'by accident'.
I just finished a 3 on 2 game, I was engy and my team had the 3, neither ops would build a radar (they kept doing disguise, ya even though other team had only 2 players), they kept saying build your own. So, I switched teams, destroying my AVT and then they lost because they couldn't stop the vehicles.
Singh400
10-27-2007, 02:24 AM
Global chat, name and shame.
gorg_graggel
10-27-2007, 05:44 AM
switch class and deploy yourself...
MerCyChilled
10-27-2007, 01:58 PM
Crush them by deploying a supply crate on them:dance:
Fatfool
10-27-2007, 06:04 PM
switch class and deploy yourself...
.........
some people's strengths are not in Cover Ops/Infiltrator.
so those already playing as one (you wanted to play as one), please deploy a damn radar.
Madnis
10-27-2007, 06:37 PM
switch class and deploy yourself...
That's what we need, more people playing CovOps...
I'm sure the bridge will build itself eventually.
juSt.Razor
10-27-2007, 07:35 PM
i didn't have that much problems with the covertops - i've been playing the game for many time now, and nearly everytime a radar was deployed.
that, however, wasn't the case in the demo version or beta version.
PoopSock
10-27-2007, 09:06 PM
i just usually stand in front of him and hit up "Deploy a freakin' radar already!" a few times and tag him once or twice in the foot to make sure he's paying attention. usually gets it done. :]
timestar
10-27-2007, 10:31 PM
i just usually stand in front of him and hit up "Deploy a freakin' radar already!" a few times and tag him once or twice in the foot to make sure he's paying attention. usually gets it done. :]
I normally just get shot in the head when trying this.
Anyway here's one for the Oppressors: drop a tactical shield in front of the sniper - makes him easy to spot and he can't shoot anyone.
i ask kindly in the team chat, if they dont resond a quick team kill comes there way followed by a wtf why you kill me. The radar soon gets deployed :-)
That means its ok if i kill the freakin Technicans who do not care about repairing it? even if it is on there way everytime they respawn?
Tw1tch
10-28-2007, 10:04 AM
That means its ok if i kill the freakin Technicans who do not care about repairing it? even if it is on there way everytime they respawn?
yeah alot of engineers dont help out enough keeping the radars up. i notice this a lot.
Singh400
10-28-2007, 03:04 PM
yeah alot of engineers dont help out enough keeping the radars up. i notice this a lot.Yeah we know why we don't repair the radar? Because it's on the frontline, where it can be easily attacked. Drop the radar near back, out of view.
gorg_graggel
10-28-2007, 03:57 PM
.........
some people's strengths are not in Cover Ops/Infiltrator.
so those already playing as one (you wanted to play as one), please deploy a damn radar.
well...it isn't mine also...but i'd rather play a covie, than not havin radar...
That's what we need, more people playing CovOps...
I'm sure the bridge will build itself eventually.
and moaning around surely doesn't make things better, if someone is just a noob a doesn't know howto or if someone just doesn't care an wants to play how he likes...
and the ultimate option is to just collectively leave the server and just let the snipers alone on it...so they can snipe each other...
CrimsonPig
10-29-2007, 03:40 AM
Tell the other team exactly where he is - let them take him out so you don't have to TK him.
The other thing is not to deploy a radar right where a defensive turret should be - I can't tell you how many times a radar is deployed right in the middle of two deployment locations so us lowly constructors can't deploy a AVT to stop the MCP.
ZeR_1
10-29-2007, 05:25 PM
i drop hammers and dark matters all day... =) (field ops professionist)
CCTVTech
10-29-2007, 05:43 PM
I am usually a Covert Ops but have to agree the majority of them don't do their jobs.
First Thing I do is get the damn radar up and then depending on the map I throw up my mini radar (3rd eye).
Depending on the map, ie.:
Valley: Radar, throw smoke screen over the bridge, then snipe everything coming out of the tunnel, once the MCP is in the tunnel I advance my radar, then sneak in and get my mini radar up in their main compound so the MCP knows what it is in for.
I also keep an eye on whats going on, I'll switch classes if thats where I'm needed, when it makes sense.
makute
10-29-2007, 07:45 PM
Because it's on the frontline, where it can be easily attacked...
Like in Slipgate...
Have an idea for patch 1.3: Covert Ops loses 1HP per second while they have not deployed the radar.
++IronCross++
10-29-2007, 10:19 PM
Have an idea for patch 1.3: Covert Ops loses 1HP per second while they have not deployed the radar.
I like that...or even better...what about the cov ops loosing their uniform running around naked with "Shoot me" painted on their backs....will be like a nudist camp on some servers :eek:*me shudders* :D
Lazrus
10-29-2007, 11:27 PM
It's not on topic, but I've been playing as an engineer. Those radar need to be deployed further back as someone already suggested. Deploying a turret in the space needed - only to find a darned radar taking up the best real estate - and not being able to properly support my team gets me going too.
I don't mind repairing - just use some common sense on where it's deployed to! My 1/4 cents worth
TankGoat
10-30-2007, 06:11 AM
Drop a shield on them, covering their railgun :D
SoulRebel
10-30-2007, 02:02 PM
Like in Slipgate...
Have an idea for patch 1.3: Covert Ops loses 1HP per second while they have not deployed the radar.
good idea! and -2HP per second for engineers who dont repair a damaged radar.
my experience is that my radar never gets repaired. when i am disguised, backstabbing and defending the objective i cannot spawn radars the whole time..
pageian
10-30-2007, 09:19 PM
yeah alot of engineers dont help out enough keeping the radars up. i notice this a lot.
Well then by this logic not having a radar up is also the pilots fault for not taking out the anansi/tormentor that destroyed the rader, or the soldier/aggressors fault for not taking out the enemy armor, or the fops fault for not taking out the enemy artillery.... Maybe, just maybe it's the covops fault for taking up two turret spaces on the front line to put up his radar, keeping the eng from deploying an avt that would have saved his radar in the first place. And how many time as an eng have I gone to repair a radar only to get sniped? Why didn't my covop take care of the enemy covop that sniped me?
It's not any one persons fault if the radar is damaged and not repaired, and it's not always a covops fault if a radar isn't deployed (maybe they deployed then ran off behind enemy lines and the radar got destroyed). However, that doesn't change the fact that IT IS THE COVOPS JOB to make sure a radar is deployed. If it gets destroyed then hike your ass back across the front line and get one deployed.
Tergen
10-30-2007, 10:40 PM
How exactly to you deploy a radar anyways? I am new and things are not well spelled out for me.
gorg_graggel
10-31-2007, 06:31 AM
here you're gonna find a lot of info and howto...
http://4newbies.planetwolfenstein.gamespy.com/ETQW/index.php
Griev
10-31-2007, 02:20 PM
That means its ok if i kill the freakin Technicans who do not care about repairing it? even if it is on there way everytime they respawn?
Yes by all means kill all the Technicans that refuse to repair your radar... Then make a point of screaming you need stroyant...
ROTFL
covops/infl folks are special...
pageian
10-31-2007, 03:56 PM
Yes by all means kill all the Technicans that refuse to repair your radar... Then make a point of screaming you need stroyant...
ROTFL
covops/infl folks are special...
Lol, indeed they are.:O
SpenceUK
10-31-2007, 05:17 PM
Lighten up kids!
Radar's important, so if it's broke, fix it, if it's gone deploy it, simple really. :D
BlackSpear
11-01-2007, 02:01 AM
Go over there and shove him over to your base with the Use key (you can push a team mate if you are close for the people that didn't know yet) while shouting "Deploy a freaking radar already!" and shooting in the air like a mad terrorist on XTC in between shoves.
If that doesn't help I also don't know, but it is a bit bad for your accuracy rate if you are a stats whore ;)
DugDanger
11-02-2007, 07:55 PM
Use G to push them off the edge of the cliff.
Tsuyoi_v2
11-02-2007, 09:56 PM
Covert Ops are normally snipers right? Well, most times i am GDF, and i deploy mine out of the way, behind a building, or something, making sure i don't take up 2 spots, then run off and be a sniper, helping out. Its not my fault some lazy ass engineer can't spend 20 seconds running and repairing it when i have to run some 2 minutes back to deploy another one. Also, on some maps it is hard after a certain point, like the Ark, when you are inside the biosphere and they are attacking. Even if you get one up it will be destroyed.
Covert Ops are normally snipers right? Well, most times i am GDF, and i deploy mine out of the way, behind a building, or something, making sure i don't take up 2 spots, then run off and be a sniper, helping out. Its not my fault some lazy ass engineer can't spend 20 seconds running and repairing it when i have to run some 2 minutes back to deploy another one. Also, on some maps it is hard after a certain point, like the Ark, when you are inside the biosphere and they are attacking. Even if you get one up it will be destroyed.
No, ops is not sniper class, they can be, but they have much more useful abilities then sitting on a mountain snipping one enemy at a time. Check your mission next time you play.
Raging
11-03-2007, 02:22 AM
Best thing to do if they dont deploy radar.
Hunt them down using their game name
Find their real ip
Locate their house
Unplug their computer
Shove it up their a.rse
The_Eliminator
11-03-2007, 06:30 AM
How many of these threads are there now? Its not hard to deploy a radar in a safe place where it will not get destroyed.
Tsuyoi_v2
11-03-2007, 07:08 AM
No, ops is not sniper class, they can be, but they have much more useful abilities then sitting on a mountain snipping one enemy at a time. Check your mission next time you play.
Defend "blah blah" for "blah blah". Thats a mission, is it not? Other classes can destory the AVTs and APTs, can they not?
Or Hack the Objective? I can throw one up when i respawn if there isn't one, but if i am going to try and hack it, i am not going to get 1/2 way and be like like "Hold on, wait wait, no one wants to look after the radars, let me just get another one." *Runs back, deploys*. Rinse, later, repeat.
I am not going to run head first into the enemy and be a near sitting duck for 15 seconds while i hack something for 2 exp.
And i know Ops is not a sniper class, they have scoped assault rifle or accurized lacerator. But from my experiences, they are mostly snipers except for the 3rd stages of the missions where they would naturally change to their alternative.
Also, after _just_ playing then, i put up about 5 radars in the 1 match. Not 1 engineer even bothered to come and try to repair it. And it was being destroyed by planes, and everytime i would put one back up, it would be down again withing 2 minutes.
Pimpslapper
11-03-2007, 10:03 AM
Defend "blah blah" for "blah blah". Thats a mission, is it not? Other classes can destory the AVTs and APTs, can they not?
Or Hack the Objective? I can throw one up when i respawn if there isn't one, but if i am going to try and hack it, i am not going to get 1/2 way and be like like "Hold on, wait wait, no one wants to look after the radars, let me just get another one." *Runs back, deploys*. Rinse, later, repeat.
I am not going to run head first into the enemy and be a near sitting duck for 15 seconds while i hack something for 2 exp.
And i know Ops is not a sniper class, they have scoped assault rifle or accurized lacerator. But from my experiences, they are mostly snipers except for the 3rd stages of the missions where they would naturally change to their alternative.
Also, after _just_ playing then, i put up about 5 radars in the 1 match. Not 1 engineer even bothered to come and try to repair it. And it was being destroyed by planes, and everytime i would put one back up, it would be down again withing 2 minutes.
I see it pretty much the same. The objectives for Cov Ops just suck for exp. I used to hate snipers too but they can be effective if played properly. I deploy a radar every time too but when there is a plane destroying them and five soldiers on our side and not ONE with an obliterator to shoot them down and not a single engineer repairing them when they are up it is a bit annoying.
They need to make hacking objectives worth a lot more exp and being in disguise should also give exp when behind enemy lines. Backstabbing as well should give double exp. One out of ten snipers are alright; they just got a bad rap from the other nine noobs out there.
SpenceUK
11-03-2007, 03:58 PM
I see it pretty much the same. The objectives for Cov Ops just suck for exp. I used to hate snipers too but they can be effective if played properly. I deploy a radar every time too but when there is a plane destroying them and five soldiers on our side and not ONE with an obliterator to shoot them down and not a single engineer repairing them when they are up it is a bit annoying.
They need to make hacking objectives worth a lot more exp and being in disguise should also give exp when behind enemy lines. Backstabbing as well should give double exp. One out of ten snipers are alright; they just got a bad rap from the other nine noobs out there.
EMP grenades can make a hell of a diff to your team(and satisfy the hack missions). especially when the Desecrator or Cyclops can be put out of action for 20 seconds, the MCP can go quite a distance in that time.
Smoke's nice, too, it's not all reaching out and touching someone! (Theres a lot to be said for my patented "running round like a headless chicken" approach.) :D
As mentioned, how about some smoke over objectives for cover, or emp/scrambler on AVT/APT and enemy Vehicles. It is not all about XP, it is a TEAM game, not a loan sniper game. Anti-Sniper support yes, Ops primary function is behind enemy lines causing trouble.
-stix-
11-04-2007, 12:13 AM
I normally just get shot in the head when trying this.
Anyway here's one for the Oppressors: drop a tactical shield in front of the sniper - makes him easy to spot and he can't shoot anyone.
LOL! Thats Crazy dude, im so using that one :)
I usually fly an icarus and land it in front of them.:oppressor:
Netmind
11-04-2007, 04:58 AM
I hate those who dosnt deploy one after u spammed "We need a RADAR" 10 times.
Try to keep being in front of him ALL the time :p He will get sick of it and ask u to stop it, so then is ur time to say "Not untill i see a radar up" :)
How bout this, deploy the damn thing in the designated area (better walk them over to where it goes) before the timer (on a 20 min) hits 19:xx so the engies can go do whatever it is that they do (tired...). Then, you need another radar, make another. And the engies need to either check up on the radars or the covert ops needs to tell them.
Cripes I usually play as a soldier/aggressor and I suffer from not having radar(among other things like lag, which I hate considerably.)
Oh, and there really is no excuse for not having radar on a map like Slipgate, for either team.
Oh man, I just got out of a game on sewer, 5 covert ops, 2 engineers (which I was one) and no radar. After many requests from both I and the other engineer I went around to each of their tents and used the QC "deploy a radar" after each I shot them with my side arm. If they said something like "unable to assist" I killed them. Did 2 of them and then it was deployed.
RFA^DrDeath
11-04-2007, 09:18 PM
Tell the other team exactly where he is - let them take him out so you don't have to TK him.
The other thing is not to deploy a radar right where a defensive turret should be - I can't tell you how many times a radar is deployed right in the middle of two deployment locations so us lowly constructors can't deploy a AVT to stop the MCP.
Have to say, I will just destroy any artillery or radar taking up a valuable defensive area. If they have just put them in a stupid place and they are not in the way I leave them alone. Say on valley, (playing second phase ) if I see an artillery turret further forward than garage behind outpost, then it goes and to hell with the complaints.
Was playing slipgate tonight, we had 5 covert ops on GDF (all sniping) and not one trying to hack for ten minutes. Had to go cov ops myself to get it done :rolleyes: Dunno how make folk deploy radar , I guess you just have to spam team chat !:dance:
CCTVTech
11-05-2007, 06:48 PM
Like I have said before, I keep a radar up whenever possible.
Most of the time I am right in the middle of the fight, but there are times during a map where a sniper is a major advantage.
Last night I was playing Valley and from the start I deployed the radar then ran to the hill on the right and threw my third eye so everyone had something while the main radar was deploying.
Well I'm 10 feet up the hill sniping everything that comes out of the tunnel, taking them out left and right only a few get through, plus keeping them from using the flying rat things when a teammate yells and tells me to quite sniping and help out. ????????
So fine I respawned and switch guns and went over to the bridge (radar is still up) and start with the close quarters combat. needless to say we went from getting the first half of the bridge built in just a matter of a minute to wasting over 8 minutes trying to finish it due to all the flying rats and infantry swarming us.
I think I liked my way better.
Now...To all the cov ops that don't deploy a friggin radar, WTF!
I was playing an engineer on one map and we had 3 cov ops and not one radar till I switched classes.
...Had to get that out, I feel better now. :D