1.2 - ATI Cards and Crashing to Desktop [Archive] - Enemy Territory: QUAKE Wars Official Community Site

Risingdawn

10-31-2007, 09:44 PM

I renamed my .exe, this fixed my problem with not being able to get into the game but caused a new problem where it will freeze my computer 5-10mins into it. The OP has the solution, unfortunatley I cant use any catalyst drivers past 7.7 and everything before 7.7 has opengl error's.

Patch 1.2 has officially killed my game :mad:

No offense to anybody but I have never encountered such a game breaking patch in my life.

Weedo[TeamATi]

10-31-2007, 09:46 PM

With either Triple Buffering disable or enable, still crashes to desktop when joining a server...so not the fix for my crash. Going to update to the latest ATi Drivers.

Updated to ATi 7.10 ccc and disabled triple buffering and can now play.

Config:

Driver Packaging Version 8.273-060718a-035119C-ATI
CATALYST® Version 06.7
Provider ATI Technologies Inc.
2D Driver Version 6.14.10.6626
2D Driver File Path System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{F38CBA89-1A8D-40AB-9575-10CEBDCAF982}\0000
Direct3D Version 6.14.10.0419
OpenGL Version 6.14.10.5949
CATALYST® Control Center Version 1.2.2390.38630

Graphics Card Manufacturer Built by ATI
Graphics Chipset RADEON X850 XT
Device ID 5D52
Vendor 1002

Subsystem ID 0302
Subsystem Vendor ID 1002

Bus Type PCI Express
Current Bus Setting PCI Express

BIOS Version 009.007.001.004
BIOS Part Number 113-A47413-101
BIOS Date 2004/11/17

Memory Size 256 MB
Memory Type DDR3

Core Clock in MHz 520 MHz
Memory Clock in MHz 540 MHz

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Manufacturer NVIDIA
System Model AWRDACPI
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 39 Stepping 1 AuthenticAMD ~2412 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG, 3/28/2006
SMBIOS Version 2.2
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)"

Total Physical Memory 2,048.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 1.51 GB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 3.85 GB

gargamelo

10-31-2007, 09:54 PM

no need to bother , same problem using 7.10 , renaming .exe and disable tripple buff did the trick , so this error affects every ati user ?

i can play now, but i have to add the profile everytime i start the game.

Weedo[TeamATi]

10-31-2007, 10:06 PM

Xian

11-01-2007, 12:10 AM

Had problems on my Macbook Pro ATI X1600, renamed the .exe and it works now.

Very very odd =(

BloodFlood

11-01-2007, 12:54 AM

The joys of being an nVidia user. Go on, defect over to the nVidia side! :)

HolezInYa

11-01-2007, 01:04 AM

For me the answer was just to turn off the Catatlyst A.I., and turn on the Triple Buffering.

Shivvy

11-01-2007, 01:45 AM

Hi, ATI card holder.

thank you for possible fix so soon, loaded 1.2 yesterday.

Please though, How do I "Disable Triple Buffering in the ATI Control panel?"

Shivvy

11-01-2007, 01:46 AM

Hi, how do i Disable Triple Buffering in the ATI Control panel? i.e. how do I get to the control panel for ATI?

HolezInYa

11-01-2007, 02:35 AM

Just load up the Catalyst Control Center, and look through the options. I know that the Catalyst AI setting causes an issue also.

johnathonm

11-01-2007, 02:42 AM

But why does renaming the etqw.exe make a difference in this workaround?

Curious.

-J

:confused:

FoSnap

11-01-2007, 03:40 AM

I did this method, and now I can connect to servers, but it still crashes 40% of the time. It's just a temporary workaround.

k-1-am

11-01-2007, 04:35 AM

hm.. my actuall problem is that my game encounters a problem as soon as i play on the map Canyon, Trip-buffering is disabled and im using Cat. 7.10
every other map just work fine,but Canyon doesn't :/

RubberDuck

11-01-2007, 05:12 AM

I did this method, and now I can connect to servers, but it still crashes 40% of the time. It's just a temporary workaround.

Yep me to. I tryed everything and it still crashes :(

Risingdawn

11-01-2007, 05:27 AM

:Begin Rant
I've tried every fix on these forums.
None work.

I've re-installed and am now playing BOT's out of the box (1.0).
I suggest you all do the same untill someone somewhere realises they have messed up everyone's previously working game. 1.0 and 1.1 both work fine.

SD this is not good enough, patches that break the game and then need patches to fix the patches :confused:

They will soon fix it when all the servers are suddenly empty.

Sorry for the rant but it's now 04:25am and I have been installing/reinstalling/fixing/tweaking/changing drivers since about 6pm last night NOTHING works.

Fix it or scrap the stupid patch, roll back all the servers to 1.1 and let us play the game we where all happy playing a couple of days ago.

:End Rant:infiltrator:

Mordenkainen

11-01-2007, 06:50 AM

But why does renaming the etqw.exe make a difference in this workaround?

Curious.

-J

:confused:

Because NV/ATI enable driver optimisations for specific games by scanning the executable name. You can often catch them cheating in this way like in the quake/quack incident.

Moridin_

11-01-2007, 08:22 AM

For me it had nothing to do with the Triple buffering and everything to do with Catalyst AI just diable this in the CCC under 3d settings/extra settings..

Try this before doing something as drastic as renaming your exe lol

Moridin_

11-01-2007, 08:30 AM

It's the Catalyst AI.. disable it

adrian97c

11-01-2007, 09:10 AM

for me, i use the lastest 7.10 cat, but w/ no ccc instead i only have atitraytools, i dont have triple buffer clicked and i tried renaming... NOTHING WORKS!!! argggg,

plzz ROLL servers back to 1.1 so i can play this expensive as game!! :eek:

Yggdrasil

11-01-2007, 12:11 PM

hi,

maybe this helps some of you. i have got 2 monitors pluged in to my graphic adapter and i disabled triple buffering for my main monitor and totally forgot my second one. after disabling triple buffering for the second monitor too the game runs fine.

JASGripen

11-01-2007, 03:36 PM

Has anyone with the problem just renamed the .exe and (still) enabled AI and tripple buffering?

This should be the best hot fix solution as it don't matters what the .exe is named, but matters more to have nice gfx.

gorg_graggel

11-01-2007, 03:56 PM

i have posted my observations in another thread...so i won't go into detail...
the crash reason seems to be the combination of cat ai and triple buffering...
if only one of those is disabled the game works...with the difference, that with cat ai on and triple buffer off it takes ages to load up and when a map is finally loaded it's still caching stuff in the background which makes the game and limbo totally unresponsive, but when caching is done, everything works ok...the other way around (cat ai off, TB on) it works perfectly for me...even better than before...
renaming the exe causes alot of warnings in the logfile, but is also working with either triple buffering and cat ai on...

at least this applies to me....

edit:
my friend has a radeon 9800pro and for him only renaming the exe helps...
the cat ai and TB switching doesn't help...
so it seems to be a problem with x1000 cards (and greater maybe)...i've got an x1950pro myself...

[ak]nuts

11-02-2007, 01:55 AM

I have gone through all of the above ideas and noted that one thing wasn't mentioned: I can play single player just fine. So what's the difference between playing online and playing single-player have to do with ATI Cards????

Also, I noticed that upon crash, the game forgets my default account name. Odd?

gorg_graggel

11-02-2007, 03:32 AM

maybe punkbuster related...but dunno...
can you confirm what i observed?

[ak]nuts

11-02-2007, 04:11 AM

maybe punkbuster related...but dunno...
can you confirm what i observed?

I've played with every combination of on and off for every setting and haven't found the right combination. I even disabled my 2nd monitor without impact. X850 ATI Radeon here.

gorg_graggel

11-02-2007, 04:16 AM

so renaming the exe also doesn't help?

do you use catalyst 7.10?

TomHanksSupremeActor

11-02-2007, 05:52 AM

If you have an ATI card and are crashing to the desktop when you try to join a server or load a map, please do the following:

Disable Triple Buffering in the ATI Control panel.

This should solve the crash problem and allow you to play.

Update: This issue will be fixed by ATI in an upcoming driver release.

I really, shouldn't need to do this...
We ATI really are an afterthought.

Trippe buffer isnt even on and it's still doing this...

FUN8088Y

11-02-2007, 06:19 AM

I'm using an X1300 and none of these suggestions work. If I'm lucky enough to reach the Username/Password screen, when I try to login the word 'Cancelled' pops up on the screen and I can't proceed. What an update.....

Moridin_

11-02-2007, 12:04 PM

Goto Catalyst Control Centre under 3d settings/Catalyst AI disable this option

I got a x1300 pro and it worked fine for me after that

FiReBaRn20

11-02-2007, 12:21 PM

For me it had nothing to do with the Triple buffering and everything to do with Catalyst AI
i disable cat ai it seems to work so far
ty for advice

JASGripen

11-02-2007, 01:44 PM

Same here, 3d buff. activated again.

Rockso

11-02-2007, 02:47 PM

yay it finally work.

cosy

11-02-2007, 08:49 PM

BTW remaming the exe file on steam don't work :mad:

-c

HolezInYa

11-03-2007, 01:34 AM

Hello All I have a Gecube X1300 512 card. The At first I could play the game fine with the Catalyst 7.7 Driver. With the 1.2 patch all drivers prior to 7.9 would not join a game at all. They would load all the way and crash as soon as it was time to join. Catalyst 7.9 and 7.10 would allow me to join a game, but the graphics had lines and streaks the whole way across the screen anywhere there was text.
((((((((((I just turned of Catalyst A.I. and Turned on Triple Buffering with the 7.10 Catalyst Drivers and viola I was again playing with no problems.)))))))))

Hylander

11-03-2007, 02:04 AM

Just a follow-up which doesn't add much 'cohesion' to the problem, but just another example.

I was having the same problem and turning off triple buffer or catalyst AI made no difference. I was using the latest OMEGA drivers which are based off the 7.10s.

So I did a clean uninstall. Removed everything driver related, ATI tools, etc. Then downloaded the latest Catalyst Drivers from ATI (I hate CCC, but I did it anyways). For some reason, it resolved my problem. When I installed the new package from ATI/AMD - it by default had triple buffering and the catalyst AI disabled.

The performance still isn't as "smooth" as it was pre 1.2 - but my FPS are not down that drastically.. maybe on average 5-7 fps.

Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
2 Gigs of RAM
ATI X1900XT 512MB

I get a high FPS of around 60 - 70, and lows in really congested action of maybe 30 - 32.

HolezInYa

11-03-2007, 04:48 AM

My advice to those of you not getting QWET to work after turning off Catalyst A.I. is to uninstall everything ATi related, and I do mean everything wipe it clean and start from scratch. Once you have a clean slate install the 7.10 Drivers. Once these drivers and the new control panel are installed open the control panel and turn off Catalyst A.I. Turn off anything that has anything to do with Anti Aliasing. Anti Aliasing fixes are what is causing ATi Card users to crash.

HolezInYa

11-03-2007, 04:55 AM

The game and patches are tested on Nvidia Systems, and they work fine on those systems it is an ATi related issue more than Splash Damages Bad. Many of us spent many many hours trying to figure out what drivers to use, and what settings would work. Many of us found a fix, and many of us posted the fixes we found here. Yes it is frustrating, but before you get all worked up and give yourself an aneurysm make sure you have removed everything ATi before trying to repatch to 7.10

FUN8088Y

11-03-2007, 11:01 AM

I've got an X1300 PRO (7.10) and after the 1.2 update I was having a lot of various problems running the game. However turning off the Cat A.I. now has enabled me to play the game, graphics in general are really impressive however on a couple of maps the walls of certain buildings (i:e building next to the room where Data Disk is delivered to on Island) will now ''flicker'' constantly. Considering the problems I did have getting the game to run - I'm not really complaining, but curious - has anyone else noticed this?
(p.s. cheers Moridin_ for the previous advice)

iownuall

11-03-2007, 11:58 AM

which folder do i rename?

iownuall

11-03-2007, 12:02 PM

thanks moridin for that it seems like the solution it works fine now woot!!! Goto Catalyst Control Centre under 3d settings/Catalyst AI disable this option

dingens

11-03-2007, 03:23 PM

System_Crush

11-03-2007, 04:56 PM

I'm at a loss, it keeps crashing

I was using CCC 6.4(ish) triple buffering was already off and I turned off the catalyst AI as well.
That didn't work.
I then upgraded to Radeon omega drivers V3.8.421, of which I think I disabled triple buffering, by disabling 'Force 3D profiles' but I found it's settings confuzing so I'm not sure if there was a simple tripple buffering setting in it.
I still crashed.
I then deinstalled Omega and upgraded to 7.10 disabled triple buffering and catalyst AI and set all Anti-analising to 'let the application decide'
I am still crashing!!!

I cannot rename the .exe to etqw_test.exe because I am using the steam version.
Nor can I use anything lower than the latest patch available on steam because that too is automatic.

Is there anything else I can do? :confused:
there must be some way to get his thing working. :(
I'm using a Radeon 9800 XT as said currently with 7.10

gorg_graggel

11-03-2007, 05:06 PM

well, my clanmate has a 9800pro and only renaming helps...he's tried everything else also...so maybe a new driver version will help, when ati releases it, but only if they don't forget to take older cards into consideration...

and for the guys who got it working and have a multicore processor try enabling the threaded renderer...it upped my fps a nice bit...

System_Crush

11-03-2007, 08:56 PM

well, my clanmate has a 9800pro and only renaming helps...he's tried everything else also...
But I can't rename because of stream :( :( :( :(

Although, steam should be contacted about this, for them it shouldn't be so hard to rename the inner class witch runs the game.
Hell I'd do it myself if that didn't violate steam EULA.

and for the guys who got it working and have a multicore processor try enabling the threaded renderer...it upped my fps a nice bit...
Good to know, I have a serialized dual core.

[ak]nuts

11-03-2007, 11:46 PM

Okay, I've tried about everything. Wiped all ATI drivers and tools from my system. Reinstalled ATI drivers from scratched. Used every possible setting for A.I. and Tripple Buffer all without luck. Again, I can play single player just fine.

I've attached my system settings (cvars, dx, etc).

Anyone care to take a look and make a recommendation? Or, should I quit getting frustrated and just wait for a patch to the patch?

(Man, this sounds just like BF2... sending a patch that breaks the game for a lot of folks.)

reyalp

11-04-2007, 12:02 AM

nuts;206447']Okay, I've tried about everything. Wiped all ATI drivers and tools from my system. Reinstalled ATI drivers from scratched. Used every possible setting for A.I. and Tripple Buffer all without luck. Again, I can play single player just fine.

I've attached my system settings (cvars, dx, etc).

Anyone care to take a look and make a recommendation? Or, should I quit getting frustrated and just wait for a patch to the patch?

(Man, this sounds just like BF2... sending a patch that breaks the game for a lot of folks.)
Are you running any 3rd party tweaking sorftware (rivatuner, atitool etc ?) Or antivirus ?

Single player working makes me think it could be a PB, antivirus or firewall issue in your case. Have you tried playing on a PB off server ?

[ak]nuts

11-04-2007, 12:21 AM

Nope, not running anything else. I wonder if other folks that suffer ATI failures can also play single player? (I updated PB and disabled AV, no diff)

"Faulting application etqw.exe, version 1.2.11308.32568, faulting module atioglxx.dll, version 6.14.10.6956, fault address 0x0017db91."

ericstarkid

11-04-2007, 06:15 AM

my laptop has the mobility radeon x1400
was running the game without problem in 800*600 resolution with normal graphic quality
ever since updating to 1.2, there is a big pinkish greenish mark in the middle of the screen, and i got the loading page transparent on the background while in the game
i tried with the ATI control panel with AI enabled/disabled and tripple buffering enabled/disabled, none of that worked
i have now reinstalled the game with the 1.1 patch playing with bots only
please figure something out as soon as possible

System_Crush

11-04-2007, 08:36 AM

Nope no single player, no lan, and no online.
Noticeable is though that online crashes immediately upon joining the server, and single player first does take the time to load everything.
What 3D do online servers show before you have even started loading the map?

Also, I do think there should be a patch(hopefully soon) because the point of it working when renamed; means Splash has the code for a workaround or fix already, they just have it turned off in the (current) final version.

varis

11-04-2007, 12:04 PM

Can it be something related to an old beta installation? I have X800GTO, had beta2 still installed and couldn't connect to any Internet servers.

I upgraded to latest version of the ATI software, went to 3C - triple buffering was already disabled, disabled AI. No help.

Then I renamed the binary and uninstalled beta2. Worked after that, and still worked when I renamed the binary back to original name.

Windows is weird stuff :O

gorg_graggel

11-04-2007, 01:40 PM

Also, I do think there should be a patch(hopefully soon) because the point of it working when renamed; means Splash has the code for a workaround or fix already, they just have it turned off in the (current) final version.

this is not SD's fault...at least not the problems with the ATI cards...
it's purely ATI's fault, cause they cheat in their drivers, and renaming the file makes the driver not recognize the game and use standard values...

Thekillah

11-04-2007, 06:21 PM

I have an Ati Card, and right, with the 1.2 upgrade my ET:QW crashes to desktop. The trouble is than i´ve gone to the ATI Control Panel and my
Triple Buffering was off.

So, were is the problem? Any idea?

Cheers!:dance: :dance:

Thekillah

11-04-2007, 06:49 PM

Ok, i´ve disabled the AI in the Catalyst Control Center and it works. The Triple Buffering is ON.

By the way, mine is a Sapphire Radeon X1600 PRO.

Hope this help.

shneed

11-04-2007, 08:55 PM

madclown

11-04-2007, 09:33 PM

i first made the game work by closing catalyst ai and opening triple buffering. after doing the hotfix, catalyst ai is available but triple buffering is disabled, game worked. you have to try different combinations of those i think.

hamhocks

11-04-2007, 11:07 PM

I had a black screen from the double-click of the shortcut. Couldn't even log in. It lasted for almost a minute. Un-installed CCC. reinstalled drivers. Still nogo. Un-installed Ati tray tool. GO. reinstalled tray tool without overclocking. GO. Seems to be something to to with overclocking. As long as I don't use overclock software, it's a GO.

gorg_graggel

11-05-2007, 01:10 AM

would be good, if the ppl who didn't do it, would say what card they have, cuz it seems that different ati cards require different solutions...

x2000-series: dunno yet...
x1000-series: disable cat ai...just disabling triple buffer also works, but sometimes still produces problems...
x100-series: see this post:
http://community.enemyterritory.com/forums/showpost.php?p=207620&postcount=57
9x00-series: rename exe...

[ak]nuts

11-05-2007, 03:25 AM

Hi !

I'm also an ATI-Owner and ive got problems too.

I don't know if it was already mentioned, but just try joining the server in "window mode" and after connecting just switch back to fullscreen. (ALT+Enter)

To switch to window mode you just need the entry "com_usefastvidrestart 1" in the autoexec.cfg (base folder)

Thats the only solution that worked for me.

BINGO! THAT FIXED IT!
OR:
first you must open your console by pressing alt+ctrl+~. once you got it open, type in com_usefastvidrestart 1, hit enter and you're all set. now to minimize you first hit alt+enter to bring the game into windowed mode. then you can go ahead and alt+tab out onto your desktop.

ZEO_JAX

11-05-2007, 04:18 PM

Hi i know, maybe this is not a bug, but it is wierd.
When i switch triple buff. off tha game works fine. So i join to the first online server i played 40 min without prob, but when i try to connect another server it kicked me out with an error "connection canceled" , so i try another and? Same problem, it kicked me out...

Is this bug? Or i must have a better luck to find server like i found at the first time

Sphincter

11-05-2007, 06:21 PM

I wasnt able to play on or offline - but renaming the exe fixed it.
I noticed that first time it crashed (SP) there was an error saying that it was trying to open an 2nd instance of the game, and there was an odd splitscreen - so renaming probably killed one of those instances. (prevented it from starting)

x1650 pro - Omega drivers

gorg_graggel

11-05-2007, 08:09 PM

http://community.enemyterritory.com/forums/showpost.php?p=207904&postcount=60

absolutebeginner

11-05-2007, 10:26 PM

have a Radeon 9700pro - yes it's quite old, but I could play the demo without problems (it crashed to desktop every once in a while on server connect, but restarting the demo and trying to connect to the same server worked all the time).

now I bought the game (via steam, so no exe-renaming here) and it doesn't work. how can that be?

installed 7.10, turning off both Cat. AI AND Triple Buffering: I could connect to the server, and even play 1 map and 5 minutes on another, but then the game froze (not crashing to desktop).

i'm disappointed - can I reupload the game via steam and get my money back in case there is no fix?
/irony

HolezInYa

11-06-2007, 07:14 AM

I'm at a loss, it keeps crashing

I cannot rename the .exe to etqw_test.exe because I am using the steam version.
Nor can I use anything lower than the latest patch available on steam because that too is automatic.

Is there anything else I can do? :confused:
there must be some way to get his thing working. :(
I'm using a Radeon 9800 XT as said currently with 7.10

I think you may be able to change the .exe name in steam. If you tried this I apologize, but have you gone into Valve/Steam/SteamApps/Common/qwet and tried?

absolutebeginner

11-06-2007, 09:19 AM

I think you may be able to change the .exe name in steam. If you tried this I apologize, but have you gone into Valve/Steam/SteamApps/Common/qwet and tried?

I tried. Of course I can rename the exe, but when starting the game I get an error.
That and the impossibility to downgrade to lower versions seem now to be the main disadvantages of using Steam.

SlimJimE17

11-06-2007, 10:46 AM

Well well, changing the exe to etqw_test.exe worked for me.

Does this mean there is something up with the latest ATI drivers?

Slim

System_Crush

11-06-2007, 09:15 PM

I Fixe... ehh... got mine to work

Inspired by this post:
first you must open your console by pressing alt+ctrl+~. once you got it open, type in com_usefastvidrestart 1, hit enter and you're all set. now to minimize you first hit alt+enter to bring the game into windowed mode. then you can go ahead and alt+tab out onto your desktop.
THX [ak]nuts

ETQW Steam version
Full screen: off (windows tries to do something on alt+enter, but it doesn't succeed in switching between fullscreen, so nothing happens)
Resolution: 4/5 of my desktop, setting it higher doesn't have any effect :confused:
Graphics: lowest (with 1024-768 resolution I can't go higher :( )

Outside ETQW
ATI 9800 XT with CCC 7.10
ATI AI: off
Triple buffering: on

I used the console a few times to run com_usefastvidrestart 1, thinking that you need to run the command whenever you start the game.
Weather the change is permanent, or if I just don't need to do that for QW to work; I no longer enter it and it still works.
But it still crashes when I turn on full screen.

And I'm straight into the next problem:
I get disconnected on the entering second map in a punk buster server, and after a random number of games on a non punk buster server.

This is probably connected to the fact that it fails to track any persistent stats what so ever, end I did play a few single matches on ranked campaign servers.

and for the guys who got it working and have a multicore processor try enabling the threaded renderer...it upped my fps a nice bit...I have a dual core, is that a function on the CCC? if so where is it. the FPS is reasonable, but more might allow me to pull up the graphics a little.

gorg_graggel

11-07-2007, 03:25 AM

Well well, changing the exe to etqw_test.exe worked for me.

Does this mean there is something up with the latest ATI drivers?

Slim

yes...this is due to "optimizing" drivers for different game i guess...

I have a dual core, is that a function on the CCC? if so where is it. the FPS is reasonable, but more might allow me to pull up the graphics a little.

either type r_useThreadedRenderer "2" in the console before (!) entering a game or put it into your autoexec.cfg...

NIDCLXVI

11-07-2007, 10:44 AM

Just disable "optimisations"

I have now fixed all my issues by doing the following for my 1950pro AGP:

in catalyst control panel enable triple buffering
in catalyst control panel disable Catalyst AI
in catalyst control panel set all other options to application controlled
in autoexec set imape_picmip 2

I now have full glorious graphics again and my FPS is back upto a constant smooth 30
and I no longer have a long wait loading (the delay after spawn entities = 100% caused by CCC "optimising" the loaded textures before letting the map play)

Thank Strogg fro that!!!

for me disabling triple buffering caused sub 30 FPS all the time!

Hope this helps someone!

Skaltum

11-07-2007, 02:16 PM

when you say "rename .exe" are you talking about etqw.exe? because i renamed it and now i cant get it to load >.<

edit: i changed it back to etqw.exe and now i can play again. yet still crashing :(

SlimJimE17

11-07-2007, 03:36 PM

when you say "rename .exe" are you talking about etqw.exe? because i renamed it and now i cant get it to load >.<

edit: i changed it back to etqw.exe and now i can play again. yet still crashing :(

Yes, rename the etqw.exe, then run it by double clicking on it, don't use the shortcuts or autorun from the DVD.

Slim

NLxAROSA

11-07-2007, 08:06 PM

<snip>
in catalyst control panel enable triple buffering
in catalyst control panel disable Catalyst AI
in catalyst control panel set all other options to application controlled
in autoexec set imape_picmip 2
<snip>

Hope this helps someone!Sure did, runs very smooth again on my X1950XT. No more lag at start of level and no more FPS drops either. Thanks! :dance:

System_Crush

11-07-2007, 08:30 PM

Great that will help ty NIDCLXVI! ehh... hold on...
Just disable "optimisations"
and I no longer have a long wait loading (the delay after spawn entities = 100% caused by CCC "optimising" the loaded textures before letting the map play)
Now I know that "optimizations" is not a setting in CCC, whut do you mean by it?
Mipmap Detail Level, perhaps?

NLxAROSA

11-07-2007, 09:28 PM

Great that will help ty NIDCLXVI! ehh... hold on...

Now I know that "optimizations" is not a setting in CCC, whut do you mean by it?
Mipmap Detail Level, perhaps?No, it's the Catalyst AI setting. Disable it completely. Just follow the four steps posted by NIDCLXVI.

PhatPhreak

11-08-2007, 08:02 AM

Had problems on my Macbook Pro ATI X1600, renamed the .exe and it works now.

Very very odd =(

Same, had weird problems with my ATI X1600 mobility on my laptop. (Couldn't see bullet tracers when zoomed or in a vehicle & also strange screen freezing while looking towards the edge of the map but the minimap still worked).

Then updated my video drivers and the game kept crashing when loading maps.
Tried a number of different video drivers, still kept crashing.
Renamed the exe runs fine now!

mike2105

11-08-2007, 04:50 PM

Lol the only games that dont crash my ATI card are QW & W:ET, pretty handy as these are the only 2 i give a crap about. Serioulsy though my ATI card has been nothing but hassle. I tried playing Oblivion & it crashed the graphics card so badly i had to reinstall windows (off topic i know, sorry).

gorg_graggel

11-08-2007, 05:21 PM

Same, had weird problems with my ATI X1600 mobility on my laptop. (Couldn't see bullet tracers when zoomed or in a vehicle & also strange screen freezing while looking towards the edge of the map but the minimap still worked).

Then updated my video drivers and the game kept crashing when loading maps.
Tried a number of different video drivers, still kept crashing.
Renamed the exe runs fine now!

try disabling catalyst AI in your driver...better solution than renaming, if it works...

LennardF1989

11-08-2007, 05:26 PM

NLxAROSA

11-08-2007, 07:17 PM

I would suggest just disabling Cat AI and keep the triple buffering on. Your framerate will thank you. ;)

SlimJimE17

11-08-2007, 07:33 PM

The renaming myth is worthless.... It's still the same executable file, nothing chnaged in the code, it still bugs with Catalyst.

Just disable Catalyst A.I. AND Triple Buffering and everything is fine.

Again, renaming is useless.

That is not true, rename the file name means that the Catalyst driver does not recognise the program and then try and optimize the setting to run it.

I have a 1950 Pro and using the original filename and 1.2 patch the program crashes after loading a map, changing the name of the exe file allows me to run the program with Catalyst A.I. and Triple Buffering ON.

So this seems to indicate a problem within the driver, not the program.

It’s not a myth, so don’t dismiss something just because you don’t experience the problem.

Seanza

11-08-2007, 07:36 PM

Renaming the file from etqw to etqw_test worked a treat! Thanks for everyone's help in replying to this topic!

gorg_graggel

11-08-2007, 10:59 PM

That is not true, rename the file name means that the Catalyst driver does not recognise the program and then try and optimize the setting to run it.

I have a 1950 Pro and using the original filename and 1.2 patch the program crashes after loading a map, changing the name of the exe file allows me to run the program with Catalyst A.I. and Triple Buffering ON.

So this seems to indicate a problem within the driver, not the program.

It’s not a myth, so don’t dismiss something just because you don’t experience the problem.

i have the same card, and just renaming the file produces warnings in the logfile (if logging is enabled)...just disabling cat ai should also work for you...
but for ppl with a radeon 9800, for example only, renaming works...

reyalp

11-08-2007, 11:32 PM

The renaming myth is worthless.... It's still the same executable file, nothing chnaged in the code, it still bugs with Catalyst.

Just disable Catalyst A.I. AND Triple Buffering and everything is fine.

Again, renaming is useless.
This is NOT TRUE. Both ATI and nvidia drivers detect the executable by name, and do various "special" things based on that. In general, these things are to make the game run better. This has been going on for a long time, and is most definitely not a myth.

That said, if you can run the game without renaming (by disabling cat AI and triple buffering) that is the more desirable solution, because then you will still get the advantage of whatever optimizations/bug fixes ATI does specifically for etqw.

gorg_graggel

11-09-2007, 02:28 AM

aren't the cat ai functions those optimizations, which get as disabled as when you rename the exe? i mean, that would explain why it's working both ways...
i guess the warnings in the logs result from something PB related...
but i don't really know...
anyways, having cat ai disabled allows me to reenable triple buffering without any problems...but i've discovered that this depends on chiptype...

urdead

11-10-2007, 12:28 AM

I have a 9500 pro. Mine kept crashing recently, the screen would freeze when I disabled VPU recovery mode. I updated to the latest drivers dated Oct. 2007 and they seem to work better. Still have triple buffering disabled though. I would not disable the cat AI altogether though.

gorg_graggel

11-10-2007, 03:06 AM

disable it, and the loading times very likely will be shortened...
when it's disabled you can even turn triple buffering on again, which could give you a small performance boost...
and if you hav a dual core cpu, enable threaded rendering to get anoter one...

urdead

11-10-2007, 09:37 PM

My problem was fixed with the driver update (7.10).
I can also enable triple-buffering with the new driver, so good to go there as well.

Staccatto

11-11-2007, 02:17 AM

ColWilster

11-11-2007, 03:10 AM

This shits going back to the store...:mad:

gorg_graggel

11-11-2007, 12:47 PM

Disabling the Catalyst AI fixed the crashing problems for me but ever since the 1.2 patch was implemented I've noticed that my FPS has taken a hit in some areas like the Slipgate Room in Area 22.
I think it has to do with the Catalyst AI but I'm really not sure, overall my FPS seems to have gone down in all maps. It used to run great before when I had Catalyst AI enabled during 1.0 and 1.1.

Specs:
ATI Radeon x1950 512 MB
Pentium D 3.2GHz
2GB RAM

leave cat ai disabled and enable triple buffer in your driver...
then type seta r_useThreadedRenderer 2 in the game console before loading a map or just create an autoexec.cfg and put it in there...might get you some more fps...

@ wilster:
either try the workarounds posted in this thread or wait for ati to fix their driver...
or maybe giving us your pc-specs could make us help you...

tterB

11-11-2007, 11:57 PM

hello, please does anyone have any suggestions to make my game run right?
running out of the box after un and re installing several times :(
the game works fine, except with acually playing it :( ! when i play any map, LAN, or against the computer, the loading process stops at
"loading entities 100%" then i get the "ETQW is not responding" messege. plus when i go to Task Manager, the Mem. usage for ETQW is 999,000 K!
i have tryed everything including disabling Triple Buffering and catylyst AI, the combination of the two, turning the resolution to 480 x 640, lowest possible graphics and particles, shaders,EVERYTHING!
nothing seems to work. i do not believe i should change the .exe name and i dont want to mess things up. please, if anything would help i would really, really appreciate it.
i am running Vista Premium (i have heard nothing is good with vista yet), ATI Radeon 1300X Pro 256MB video card, 2.3 Ghz AMD dual core processor and 2Gigabytes of RAM.

maybe another program is conflicting with with ETQW, i dont know.
also should i exit the AGEIA PhysX processor properties? the version is 2.3.1

Edit:
I have found the golden ticket!
DISABLE Cat AI and ENABLE triple buffering. i hope every ATI user trys this before messing with their .exe! oh am i greatful that 50 bucks does not go down the drain!
this game is really beautiful if you set the graphics to high. triple buffering does nothing to crash my comp. it HELPS the frame rate

space

11-13-2007, 03:56 AM

I have had MASSIVE ATI problems, and turning off adaptive anti-aliasing has resolved them. "Thank the maker!"

urdead

11-13-2007, 04:12 AM

The optimal resolution is to use both the AI and have EVERYTHING enabled. Thanks to the ATI 7.10 drivers I have NO issues anymore. Once you disable performance enhancements, your gameplay will suffer. And I tell you another thing, I'll take this ATI 9500 Pro over any like model nVidia! I have the 5400 and 5200 nVidia vid cards and they suck massively. I'm lucky to get 15 FPS with those, but I get a good 50-60 FPS with the ATI.

gorg_graggel

11-13-2007, 05:32 AM

what do you mean by "everything"?
maybe thats a resolution for those other guys with 9x00 series cards, who had to rename until now...

anyways, a bit offtopic, but the 9500 pro doesn't compare to the 5200/5400, which were low cost at it's time, more to the 5700, which was middle class then...

Geraldus

11-13-2007, 06:07 PM

If you have an ATI card and are crashing to the desktop when you try to join a server or load a map, please do the following:

Disable Triple Buffering in the ATI Control panel.

This should solve the crash problem and allow you to play.

Update: This issue will be fixed by ATI in an upcoming driver release.

Doesn´t need to disable Triple Buffering as it improves peformance with vertical sync ON. Just disable Catalyst AI and enable those above and the crashes is gone :)

space

11-14-2007, 06:33 PM

ATI people this is true.. I have been experimenting with my card and as long as Catalyst AI and adaptive AI are off I can use triple buffering.. combined with TimingMethod 1 my game runs great now.

Tergen

11-15-2007, 07:59 PM

Taken directly from the website for ATI: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/gamesite/Catalyst_710_release_notes.html

Enemy Territory: Quake Wars CrossFire™ performance improves as much as 23% on ATI Radeon™ X1x00 series products and single card performance improves as much as 23% on both ATI Radeon™ HD2x00 and ATI Radeon™ X1x00 series of products

Known issues with Vista:
Enemy Territory: Quake Wars: Enabling Super AA and soft particles may result in corruption being noticed in the main menu and through-out game play. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29942

Known issues with XP:
Enemy Territory: Quake Wars: Corrupting may be noticed with the use of rectangle textures. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29954

Enemy Territory: Quake Wars may have corruption on the water and sky after increasing the game resolution. Restarting the game at that higher resolution or issuing reloadImages command in the game console corrects the corruption. This issue only impacts graphics cards up to the ATI Radeon™ X850. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29947

Tyler

11-17-2007, 09:50 PM

ATI people this is true.. I have been experimenting with my card and as long as Catalyst AI and adaptive AI are off I can use triple buffering.. combined with TimingMethod 1 my game runs great now.
I did that, too. It does load and play, but after a few maps, the game hangs. I disabled triple buffering and, even though performance suffered a little, the game still hung the system after a while. Then I re-enabled that stupid Catalyst AI and my system began to work just fine again. It's always something! :rolleyes:

absolutebeginner

11-18-2007, 05:08 PM

I did that, too. It does load and play, but after a few maps, the game hangs. I disabled triple buffering and, even though performance suffered a little, the game still hung the system after a while. Then I re-enabled that stupid Catalyst AI and my system began to work just fine again. It's always something! :rolleyes:

do you mean, you now have triple buffering off and AI on?

I have both off and can now play. sometimes the game hangs after 2-3 maps, but right now I was able to play 5 or 6 or so - without changing any setting in the meantime (i.e. both off).

playing the demo was more fun, because it actually worked without problems.

[ak]nuts

11-18-2007, 06:30 PM

I think every ATI user has to determine his own unique configuration settings that are required to get the game to play as it did prior to the patch. For me, a combination of ATI settings, name change and running in a windowed screen (versus full screen) did the trick. I suggest that reading all 4 pages of this thread, trying a little bit from here and there and you should find success. There wasn't a single solution that worked for me so if you don't want to wait for a new patch you are going to have to take a few minutes and just play with all the settings.

BKRock

11-21-2007, 01:48 AM

I have an ATI Mobility Radeon X1300 version 8.261

Which is recommended to get me back in the game, because I've seen multiple suggestions, and I don't wanna mess up my computer.

gorg_graggel

11-21-2007, 01:10 PM

i dodn't know where you got the version from, but just open the catalyst control center (right click on desktop, then you should see it) and there go to "information center" and look what catalyst version you have...
it should be 7.10...if not, you have to update...if you don't know how, ask again...

StarfighterJ

11-21-2007, 03:50 PM

I just bought the game Installed it looking foward to play and Bang it crashes on LAN and playing computer. Saw this thread.

I am so lost right now on what to really do to fix this problem. I have read through all these post in this thread. I am also having the problem crashing and sending error report to Microsoft. and I have an ATI card. First is this the problem crashing and send error report to Microsoft is this the problem you are talking about

I am running ver 7.7 and tripple Buffering is already off. Do I need to update to 7.10 Please help:confused:

Is ETQW going to fix this? I don't like going into a game program and Changing Program names. I should have to do that. but I will if it is needed.

StarfighterJ

11-21-2007, 11:29 PM

Ok I am now running ver 7.10 and tripple Buffering again was already off did not Change the file name. Everthing lan and my Computer is now working fine so far. See youn ING:D

RubberDuck

11-21-2007, 11:50 PM

ATI 7.11's are out --> http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx <--

Resolved Issues for the Windows XP Operating System

This section provides information on resolved issues in this release of the ATI Catalyst™ Software Suite for Windows XP. These include:

* Enemy Territory: Quake Wars: Corruption is no longer noticed with the use of rectangle textures. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29954
* Enemy Territory: Quake Wars: The game no longer fails to respond when triple buffering is enabled. Further details can be found in topic number 737-30544

sivvo

11-22-2007, 03:00 AM

ATI 7.11's are out --> http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx <--

The Catalyst A.I. works fine again!

Edit: No, it does not.

RubberDuck

11-22-2007, 05:57 PM

The Catalyst A.I. works fine again!

Edit: No, it does not.

Works like a charm for me:cool:

sivvo

11-23-2007, 12:29 PM

Works like a charm for me:cool:

Yes, A.I. on at setting standart and triple buffering off.;)

RubberDuck

11-23-2007, 03:48 PM

Yes, A.I. on at setting standart and triple buffering off.;)

I have AI set to advanced & triple buffering set to on. Hasn't crashed yet. :dance: :cool:

VooDoo-Ray

11-23-2007, 05:01 PM

I would suggest just disabling Cat AI and keep the triple buffering on. Your framerate will thank you. ;)

Yup,especially if u use vsync it's better to leave triple buffering on.

The rename.exe is no myth... i had to do it to get the game running! Then again my cat ai works with triple buff enabled without crashes. I use the ccc of cat 6.7(cause it only needs MS dotNET vs 1.0) with display driver 7.7 on XP , works fine on ati x1900
NO pc and hardware/driver cfg is exactly the same.

BKRock

11-24-2007, 05:06 PM

Still haven't been able to play the game. Not exactly sure how to do some of the things mentioned here, and I really don't wanna go and mess up my computer. Anyone wanna help?

absolutebeginner

11-24-2007, 08:05 PM

sivvo

11-24-2007, 09:10 PM

is anyone already able to say whether it's worth to install the new Catalyst 7.11, considering the possible new problems mentioned here: http://community.enemyterritory.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17927

After all i would say yes - the A.I. is working (if set to standart and triple buffering off) which gives me higher and more stable fps and shadows aren't flickering anymore. (In 7.10 i used the settings A.I. off and triple buffering on.) But i should mention that i never had these crashing to desktop problems discussed in this thread.

gorg_graggel

11-25-2007, 04:16 AM

Still haven't been able to play the game. Not exactly sure how to do some of the things mentioned here, and I really don't wanna go and mess up my computer. Anyone wanna help?

did you do what i told you some posts above?

h3rk

11-30-2007, 03:20 PM

does anyone have the problem that not the game crashes to desktop but the the OS freezes and the computer restarts or just crashing waiting for the big button in front to be pressed ?

and what means "

2007-11-30 20:42:11 : WARNING: Thread 'main': event 255 for entity 2047 -1: invalid param size"

ccirelli

12-01-2007, 08:08 PM

For what it's worth - I second this statement.

Fix it or scrap the stupid patch, roll back all the servers to 1.1 and let us play the game we where all happy playing a couple of days ago.

ccirelli

12-01-2007, 08:29 PM

Had problems on my Macbook Pro ATI X1600, renamed the .exe and it works now.

Very very odd =(

What the f***. ATi X1600 here, renamed as described above and no more crashing (so far).

Come on guys (ET:QW engineers), you spent too much time on this game to make mistakes like this. I'm complaining because I've wasted hours in uninstall / reinstall land trying to fix this. :mad:

gorg_graggel

12-02-2007, 10:11 PM

ccirelli

12-03-2007, 01:18 AM

as said numerous times before, thats not sd's fault...
the ati drivers are buggy and renaming the exe causes the driver to not detect the game and not apply it's optimisations, which are faulty atm...

OK, then why were they not faulty under 1.1? If there was ATi update at the same time 1.2 was released, then fair enough.

The main point is, whatever they changed in 1.2 broke the game - for a LOT of people. Unless ATi released a simultaneous update, they've been working with the same drivers all along. If they're going to make an optimization change, they should have waited until ATi updated whatever is faulty on their end. Just sayin'.

I'm glad this site is here, but I shouldn't have had to search for a workaround to a new & improved point release. :rolleyes:

reyalp

12-03-2007, 01:35 AM

I'm glad this site is here, but I shouldn't have had to search for a workaround to a new & improved point release. :rolleyes:
Welcome to the real world. It rarely cares what you think you should or shouldn't have to do.

Not every issue gets caught in testing, and this one (regardless of who's fault it is) slipped through. If SD rolled back the patch every time there was a compatibility problem, there would never be a new patch, because in the PC world, there are ALWAYS compatibility problems. Sure you are upset that the patch "broke" your game, but all the people for whom the patch made the game work would be equally upset if they suddenly couldn't use it. The fact is there are several usable workarounds, and ATI acknowledged it was their problem. In the face of that, it would be silly to roll back the patch.

ccirelli

12-03-2007, 01:47 AM

Welcome to the real world. It rarely cares what you think you should or shouldn't have to do.
Well, then the real world won't get my $60 the next it decides to roll a game out. So.. it should care. ;)

In all honesty, I'm not that mad, just voicing some concern. I love the game. The goofy workaround works fine. But seriously, minor things slipping by? Sure, I get that. This was a little too big to write off as "oops we let this one by", especially after the amount of time this title was pushed back. How many ETQW players use ATi cards? Maybe not the majority, but a hell of a lot.

I don't think I'm being nit-picky here. Good discussion though, thanks for your feedback. I'm off to play a few rounds! :)

reyalp

12-03-2007, 02:18 AM

How many ETQW players use ATi cards? Maybe not the majority, but a hell of a lot.

It doesn't happen in all ATI systems/configurations, hence why it wasn't caught. It is a big deal, but again, in the real world **** happens.

ccirelli

12-03-2007, 12:44 PM

I hear ya, you're right. Hey at least I'm able to play now, that's all that matters. This is a great forum, without it I'd be stuck.

Now, if I can only get that pesky skill-level up... :O

absolutebeginner

12-04-2007, 09:19 PM

I have a near to 100% crashing probability on the Pacific map Sewer (Japan), when moving near the Strogg starting Base's energy shields (if that's the correct name for these orange thingies that protect the bases).
I don't know whether that is connected to the 7.11 catalyst or if that was there before. so sorry for crossposting.

Catalyst VPU recover can recover once, but if I move near the shields again, I'm likely to crash again, with no recover the second time. I have to reboot.

I'm using steam, which replaced the demo with the full game when I purchased it - I was able to properly play the demo though.

Can't wait to see either patch 1.3 OR catalyst 7.12 to fix this, soon.

thebigredone

12-14-2007, 04:57 AM

thank you guys. I updated my drivers and checked the CCC. the TD wasnt on but the AI was. so i turned the AI of and started the game (did not rename) and now it works perfectly

Austin_101

12-21-2007, 05:00 PM

Hi, new to the game and I'm trying to get it to run just like everyone else. I've searched and can't find an answer to the problem I have but maybe I'm just not phrasing it correctly. Anyway, the game loads just fine but when I try to get it to play (via autorun) it starts to load and after about 20 seconds a get an open GL not supported error. It never even asks me for the CD key that's how soon it crashes

Specs:
Core 2 Duo 2.33 GHz
Vista 32 bit
2 gig ram
ATI mobility X1900 256 mb
8.332.0.0 driver

Anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance.

gorg_graggel

12-21-2007, 06:50 PM

your graphics drivers seem to be a little bit old...
but on ati.com you won't get drivers for your card, as it only goes up to 1800 series for mobility versions...and for vista there seems to be no mobility support at all...
you'll need to check if your notebook manufacturer offers newer drivers on his homepage...then you'll need to uninstall the old ones, reboot your computer and then install the newer ones...

sivvo

12-21-2007, 07:10 PM

Ati drivers (official site): http://game.amd.com/us-en/default.aspx

gorg_graggel

12-21-2007, 07:43 PM

Ati drivers (official site): http://game.amd.com/us-en/default.aspx

but on ati.com you won't get drivers for your card, as it only goes up to 1800 series for mobility versions...and for vista there seems to be no mobility support at all...

this does also apply for the game.amd.com site...

Austin_101

12-22-2007, 08:36 AM

Checked them and according to alienware.com my driver are good to go. Any other ideas?

gorg_graggel

12-22-2007, 04:38 PM

well, installing xp would be a solution...
i googled a bit on this and it turned out that most notebook manufacturers don't have updated vista drivers for newer cards...if they are working at all you get very low performance...

ShadowMafia

12-27-2007, 09:08 AM

Has this ever happened to a nvidia based card? I'm using a 8800GT and I'm crashing to desktop once the games load, right before character selection, I crash with this [The instruction at "0x7c901139" referenced memory at "0x0000003c". The memory could not be "written". Click on OK to terminate the program]

Scott Mayo

12-30-2007, 01:54 AM

how do i disable the drivers or get new ones

sivvo

12-30-2007, 02:33 AM

how do i disable the drivers or get new ones

What do mean with "disable the drivers"?:confused:
Get new ones? Get what? If you mean graphics drivers, that depends on what graphics card you have.

Scott Mayo

12-30-2007, 02:36 AM

Where does it tell me what graphics card it is i have a nvida card but dont no ecactly which 1 im a noob at computer stuff

sivvo

12-30-2007, 02:40 AM

You may attach a dxdiag. To do so click on start->run->dxdiag->click on save all information (lower right), this creates a .txt file which you can attach to a post.
Btw. you of course also can look into the device manager...:o

Scott Mayo

12-30-2007, 02:46 AM

this is the attachment i think its readeon 2400

sivvo

12-30-2007, 02:51 AM

It is and you already have the latest Ati drivers (7.12).;)

Btw. official Ati driver site: http://game.amd.com/us-en/default.aspx

Fingyer

01-09-2008, 12:47 AM

For me changing the exe file name to etqw_test.exe and closing ATI Catalyst Control Center worked. =D

lonecrow

01-09-2008, 01:43 AM

I had an X700 that worked great on this system. I had to turn things down to 800x600 but it ran great. I also run it on my laptop with an X600 with no problems.

When 1.2 came out I had to rename the exe to etqw_test.exe and it worked.

I saw a real good deal on an ATI 2400HD Pro so I picked it up thinking it should be much better than my X700.

It doesn't work. I removed ALL ATI Drivers using the ATI utility and driver sweep etc.. and installed The CCC 7.12 !!

It crashes every time.

YES I have renamed the exe
YES I have turned off the AI
YES I have turned off triple buffering and tried it ON as well.

It seems whenever I'm near the force fields it seems to crash or about 3 mins into it.

This game is now officially FARKED for me. Other games seem to work well with no problems at all.

Someone please help!! Will this be fixed with 1.4???