View Full Version : ET:QW public beta first impressions
dzjepp
06-19-2007, 02:12 AM
Is it ok to talk about the public beta? Is there an NDA attached to it and if so what and what can't be said about it?
- But if you have already played the beta, (some FilePlanet paying members can play right now!) please post some information for us! :D
silent
06-19-2007, 02:13 AM
Is it ok to talk about the public beta? Is there an NDA attached to it and if so what and what can't be said about it?
- But if have already played the beta, (some FilePlanet paying members can play right now!) please post some information for us! :D
no NDA, hence the fact that its open. OOH OOH! I just figured out we can expect new in game playing with this to tide us over until the actual keys are released.
Strogg
06-19-2007, 02:18 AM
no NDA, hence the fact that its open. OOH OOH! I just figured out we can expect new in game playing with this to tide us over until the actual keys are released.
type in the file name of the beta in google & what do you see....................... CRACK ...... My Mouse Broke lol:confused:
sponge
06-19-2007, 02:28 AM
type in the file name of the beta in google & what do you see....................... CRACK ...... My Mouse Broke lol:confused:
I've seen that crack, and it contains a dropper trojan.
kaffein
06-19-2007, 02:29 AM
If there's no NDA bring on the screenies. :P
Ashen-Shugar
06-19-2007, 02:30 AM
IM enjoying it so far. very, very fast compared to bf2. I get lost its so fast at times. very fun though, lots of stuff to do once you figure everything out.
my fps is only 30 though and thats on high and med. settings
Gorillaman
06-19-2007, 02:35 AM
IM enjoying it so far. very, very fast compared to bf2. I get lost its so fast at times. very fun though, lots of stuff to do once you figure everything out.
my fps is only 30 though and thats on high and med. settings
What kind of hardware do you have in your machine???
Darkness429
06-19-2007, 02:37 AM
downloading right now, server must be getting flooded with other ppl, my D/L speed is fluctuating alot!
Brinkman
06-19-2007, 02:38 AM
how are some people playing it already? how did you get your key?
silent
06-19-2007, 02:46 AM
how are some people playing it already? how did you get your key?
they are the special people that fileplanet made it exclusive with. New annual and founders subscribers get a "Sneak peak" so to say.
Brinkman
06-19-2007, 02:50 AM
they are the special people that fileplanet made it exclusive with. New annual and founders subscribers get a "Sneak peak" so to say.
weak .......
TheBladeRoden
06-19-2007, 02:51 AM
Where are the gameplay movies?
Icarus
06-19-2007, 02:59 AM
I have the game, but not the key, so I can go into the menu, in menu FPS seem to be capped at 30fps.
shaky
06-19-2007, 03:00 AM
IM enjoying it so far. very, very fast compared to bf2. I get lost its so fast at times. very fun though, lots of stuff to do once you figure everything out.
my fps is only 30 though and thats on high and med. settings
The most useful command I can give you is htmlcvars
Open console using ctrl-alt-`
Then type com_allowconsole 1 and hit enter. In the future you only have to hit ` by itself to get the console open.
The htmlcvars command will output an html file that list most commands with a brief description. Pay particular attention to the commands with 'fps' in them.
s2n MaTTi
06-19-2007, 03:02 AM
I'll be totally honest myself and the rest of my team are very dissapointed with what we've seen in the beta (don't flame me stating that it's a "BETA" ) It's nothing compared to the BF series in my honest opinion.
Hopefully some of you guys feel different.
Gorillaman
06-19-2007, 03:02 AM
I have the game, but not the key, so I can go into the menu, in menu FPS seem to be capped at 30fps.
Weak. FPS capped at 30? OMG if the game is also capped at 30fps, that would be so incredibly weak.
I hope the retail game isn't capped at 30fps.
Playing favoritism with the beta is also super weak.
This game, SD and the beta have left me a bitter man.
I'll be totally honest myself and the rest of my team are very dissapointed with what we've seen in the beta (don't flame me stating that it's a "BETA" ) It's nothing compared to the BF series in my honest opinion.
Hopefully some of you guys feel different.
LOL! OMG that is just the icing on the cake.
I hope to hear more of this...that would make getting shafted by SD for the beta alot easier to deal with.
Does it appear the game is at least a year away from completion?
What kind of hardware do you have?
silent
06-19-2007, 03:04 AM
I'll be totally honest myself and the rest of my team are very dissapointed with what we've seen in the beta (don't flame me stating that it's a "BETA" ) It's nothing compared to the BF series in my honest opinion.
Hopefully some of you guys feel different.
what do you mean by that, low FPS, low graphics etc.? they still have a bit of polishing they have to go through possibly, whose to know
Icarus
06-19-2007, 03:06 AM
Weak. FPS capped at 30? OMG if the game is also capped at 30fps, that would be so incredibly weak.
I hope the retail game isn't capped at 30fps.
Playing favoritism with the beta is also super weak.
This game, SD and the beta have left me a bitter man.
LOL! OMG that is just the icing on the cake.
I hope to hear more of this...that would make getting shafted by SD for the beta alot easier to deal with.
Does it appear the game is at least a year away from completion?
What kind of hardware do you have?
to be fair, I have not checked the vsync option, so maybe, maybe.also, someone post a gameplay video.
It's nothing compared to the BF series in my honest opinion.
best thing I've heard in a long time
silent
06-19-2007, 03:11 AM
to be fair, I have not checked the vsync option, so maybe, maybe.also, someone post a gameplay video.
there is a vsync toggle.
s2n MaTTi
06-19-2007, 03:12 AM
Seriously though I'm not refering so much to how it looks I mean more of how it is in general. I'm certain that 90% of pre- BF vetrans won't like this one bit and will be extremely dissapointed. Sorry to those of you who are very excited about this but you'll get your chance to see for yourself.
Sorry, don't normally get irrate but this is a joke!
silent
06-19-2007, 03:14 AM
Then I hope they don't dare release it in its current condition then... After all this time they said they where "polishing" it up. So far it sounds like they have been doing very little with that.
shaky
06-19-2007, 03:16 AM
It's not called BF:QW for many reasons...
The fps is capped at 60 by default. There is a command to cap it at whatever number you like. Scroll up.
Also, if you are only getting 30 maybe your computer isn't up to snuff. Try typing exec minspec.cfg in the console to make it horribly ugly, but very smooth. :)
dzjepp
06-19-2007, 03:16 AM
Well this game is NOT supposed to be like battlefield at all. It's more like enemy territory. It's an arcade shooter, similar to quake. I love quake, so I think I will love this game.
GiantTriangle
06-19-2007, 03:18 AM
This is a tactical arcade fps... if that even makes SENSE!! GAH@%#^%)&*!
P.S. I HATE VILEPLANET :dance: :dance: :dance: GGRRRRRR:dance:
Icarus
06-19-2007, 03:18 AM
1. battlefield 2 is also arcadey, but not to the point where people rocket jump.
2. My machine is A64 3400+, 1.5G ram, and X1950XT
Icarus
06-19-2007, 03:19 AM
This is a tactical arcade fps... if that even makes SENSE!! GAH@%#^%)&*!
P.S. I HATE VILEPLANET :dance: :dance: :dance: GGRRRRRR:dance:
I am afraid that there may be nothing tactical about it if it's like quake.
Mobius
06-19-2007, 03:20 AM
I'm certain that 90% of pre- BF vetrans won't like this one bit and will be extremely dissapointed.
awesome! best news yet
silent
06-19-2007, 03:20 AM
I am afraid that there may be nothing tactical about it if it's like quake.
put quake in the mix, you got arcade, throw in a dash of Enemy Territory and you have tactical gameplay.
qwcfab
06-19-2007, 03:20 AM
It's not like Battlefield2? woah thats a shocker.
*rollseyes*
GiantTriangle
06-19-2007, 03:22 AM
lol. :dance: :dance: :dance:
jeeves
06-19-2007, 03:23 AM
little disappointed..but i get very low fps so that could be why.
s2n MaTTi
06-19-2007, 03:23 AM
If it's tactical gameplay you want log out now lol
jeeves
06-19-2007, 03:26 AM
yes there is NO tactical gameplay...very shocking to me. i will prolly stick to bf2 but ill keep playing to see if i start to like it more. this game is even faster than quake 3, and with my low fps...meh. i think the project reality mod for bf2 spoiled me with tactical gameplay.
silent
06-19-2007, 03:27 AM
yes there is NO tactical gameplay...very shocking to me. i will prolly stick to bf2 but ill keep playing to see if i start to like it more. this game is even faster than quake 3, and with my low fps...meh.
You mean you got ramboes in here like you did in BF.... weak.
qwcfab
06-19-2007, 03:28 AM
yes there is NO tactical gameplay...very shocking to me. i will prolly stick to bf2 but ill keep playing to see if i start to like it more. this game is even faster than quake 3, and with my low fps...meh.
I think you’ll find ETQW has a great deal of tactical gameplay. Just remember guys its only the disgruntled ones that will come on and voice their opinions.
jeeves
06-19-2007, 03:29 AM
take notice i have only started playing today...it could very well change! each round only lasted like 7 minutes. but the combat is like quake 3..but with rifles. there are no people taking cover or anything like that.
Gorillaman
06-19-2007, 03:31 AM
I'm relieved.
I talked to some people who played the game and I am so relaxed now. I'm not missing out on anything.
If I can get into the beta great, if not, I'm not sweating it.
jevvish
06-19-2007, 03:33 AM
take notice i have only started playing today...it could very well change! each round only lasted like 7 minutes. but the combat is like quake 3..but with rifles. there are no people taking cover or anything like that.
Hm so the trailers splashdamge put out showing this combat like 2 armies facing off were essentially BS?
"theres a guy on another forum who stated that he felt this game was gona be nothing more than quake 4 + vehicles + larger maps" Judging from feedback so far seems he was right:mad:
LaVaGoD
06-19-2007, 03:36 AM
take notice i have only started playing today...it could very well change! each round only lasted like 7 minutes. but the combat is like quake 3..but with rifles. there are no people taking cover or anything like that.
If the match lasted 7 minutes then whoever was on the strogg side was not doing their jobs
LaVaGoD
06-19-2007, 03:37 AM
I'm relieved.
I talked to some people who played the game and I am so relaxed now. I'm not missing out on anything.
If I can get into the beta great, if not, I'm not sweating it.
Why the hell are you here if you hate this game so much
LaVaGoD
06-19-2007, 03:38 AM
Hm so the trailers splashdamge put out showing this combat like 2 armies facing off were essentially BS?
"theres a guy on another forum who stated that he felt this game was gona be nothing more than quake 4 + vehicles + larger maps" Judging from feedback so far seems he was right:mad:
You need to learn what the word trailer means for one and that guy on that other forum is a tool
jevvish
06-19-2007, 03:40 AM
You need to learn what the word trailer means for one and that guy on that other forum is a tool
Oh please educate me oh learned one what does the word trailer mean. :rolleyes:
Last i checked (and wedgewood even confirmed this) the second trailer was just a gameplay session they had at splashdamage, so the trailer did show gameplay if thats the case...however seems its been more quakeified..which im sure will appeal to people who like gameplay from 1997.
Gorillaman
06-19-2007, 03:41 AM
Why the hell are you here if you hate this game so much
I don't hate the game, I've never played it.
But people who have played it hate it. LOL.
And, don't double post like this. Copy.paste content into your editable post.
silent
06-19-2007, 03:44 AM
If the match lasted 7 minutes then whoever was on the strogg side was not doing their jobs
That will change later, and for that matter, sewer turns into close combat after you go underground. Don't rate the current game just yet because 1) its a beta and 2) its only one single map and 3) all these players on there are just there to play and need to get there fix until the game is played properly.
Chances are the speed of the game depends souly on map size, what type of combat, and the conditions your under.
LaVaGoD
06-19-2007, 03:47 AM
Oh please educate me oh learned one what does the word trailer mean. :rolleyes:
Last i checked (and wedgewood even confirmed this) the second trailer was just a gameplay session they had at splashdamage, so the trailer did show gameplay if thats the case...however seems its been more quakeified..which im sure will appeal to people who like gameplay from 1997.
Boggles the mind.
I'm not even going to waste my time.
LaVaGoD
06-19-2007, 03:48 AM
That will change later, and for that matter, sewer turns into close combat after you go underground. Don't rate the current game just yet because 1) its a beta and 2) its only one single map and 3) all these players on there are just there to play and need to get there fix until the game is played properly.
Chances are the speed of the game depends souly on map size, what type of combat, and the conditions your under.
The map gives you a little taste of everything the game as to offer.
jeeves
06-19-2007, 03:49 AM
the firefights are ridiculous...people strafing side to side at blazing speeds until someone dies.
jevvish
06-19-2007, 03:49 AM
Boggles the mind.
I'm not even going to waste my time.
:rolleyes:
qwcfab
06-19-2007, 03:50 AM
the firefights are ridiculous...people strafing side to side at blazing speeds until someone dies.
Did you ever play W:ET?...
s2n MaTTi
06-19-2007, 03:51 AM
Did you ever play W:ET?...
And that game is how old? lol
qwcfab
06-19-2007, 03:53 AM
And that game is how old? lol
Your point being?
s2n MaTTi
06-19-2007, 03:56 AM
Your point being?
Maybe take a step forward in game technology instead of 6 steps backward?
dzjepp
06-19-2007, 03:57 AM
WOW, many people seem not to understand that this game is like W:ET, it's supposed to be more arcadey than battlefield. You should have known this a long time ago. And before you say it, there are THOUSANDS of people that like that type of gameplay, I love W:ET gameplay and I hate battlefield.
Maybe this game is not for some of you.
PS. You should have really known this a long time ago. You should have tested W:ET to see if you like that type of gameplay.
dzjepp
06-19-2007, 03:58 AM
Maybe take a step forward in game technology instead of 6 steps backward?
How so? Is every game supposed to be slow like battlefield or to a bigger extreme like graw or something?
jevvish
06-19-2007, 03:58 AM
Maybe take a step forward in game technology instead of 6 steps backward?
Therein lies the problem, some people seem to think if a game has QUAKE in the title it HAS to play a certain way. That being people bouncing round maps at 30mph spamming gunfire and rockets every which way.
LaVaGoD
06-19-2007, 04:00 AM
Maybe take a step forward in game technology instead of 6 steps backward?
Please explain how it's 6 steps back.
I'm really looking forward to your answer.
dzjepp
06-19-2007, 04:00 AM
You won't get much else from public servers. I bet playing organized clan matches will be a lot different.
silent
06-19-2007, 04:00 AM
And that game is how old? lol
It doesn't matter, it was a great game in its time and many people still play it.
FireWater
06-19-2007, 04:02 AM
He's probably pissed off that he knows he won't be good at the game. The gameplay is probably twice as fast as BF2 and the vehicles really don't do anything right now.
So he has to rely on basic FPS skills, which are probably weak.
Like i once said... too many ppl wanting enemy territory to be something else than enemy territory. BF2 should stop being a benchmark because its a fkn horrible game on a horrible engine. Now if ET is too fast for you, you should either adapt and have fun or gtfo and play something else you like.
qwcfab
06-19-2007, 04:06 AM
It’s hardly surprising that the Battlefield fan boys are complaining already. They came expecting Battlefield but instead they got something completely different. You spend your time complaining about BF but you get up in arms when you play a game that is not a copy of it, makes no sense. Quake Wars was never meant to be like BF.
s2n MaTTi
06-19-2007, 04:07 AM
He's probably pissed off that he knows he won't be good at the game. The gameplay is probably twice as fast as BF2 and the vehicles really don't do anything right now.
So he has to rely on basic FPS skills, which are probably weak.
hahaha cant wait until you play it and realise how crap it really is.
Dude I would kick your ass in any game, hit me up on x fire and try me
dzjepp
06-19-2007, 04:08 AM
It’s hardly surprising that the Battlefield fan boys are complaining already. They came expecting Battlefield but instead they got something completely different. You spend your time complaining about BF but you get up in arms when you play a game that is not a copy of it, makes no sense. Quake Wars was never meant to be like BF.
Well said. Now where are the comments from real W:ET veterans? :D
s2n MaTTi
06-19-2007, 04:08 AM
It’s hardly surprising that the Battlefield fan boys are complaining already. They came expecting Battlefield but instead they got something completely different. You spend your time complaining about BF but you get up in arms when you play a game that is not a copy of it, makes no sense. Quake Wars was never meant to be like BF.
Never hear me bitchin about BF :D :D :D
FireWater
06-19-2007, 04:09 AM
hahaha cant wait until you play it and realise how crap it really is.
Dude I would kick your ass in any game, hit me up on x fire and try me
I bet :)
I read that you played 4 years pro. How much money did you win?
I only won a few grand when I was playing at LANs, you probably have a lot more in winnings.
How much though?
LaVaGoD
06-19-2007, 04:09 AM
It’s hardly surprising that the Battlefield fan boys are complaining already. They came expecting Battlefield but instead they got something completely different. You spend your time complaining about BF but you get up in arms when you play a game that is not a copy of it, makes no sense. Quake Wars was never meant to be like BF.
Well said
Tossing a :dance: to get rid of the "Post is to short" message
CodeFire
06-19-2007, 04:09 AM
It’s hardly surprising that the Battlefield fan boys are complaining already. They came expecting Battlefield but instead they got something completely different. You spend your time complaining about BF but you get up in arms when you play a game that is not a copy of it, makes no sense. Quake Wars was never meant to be like BF.
Wow you took the words right out of my mouth! :D
silent
06-19-2007, 04:09 AM
Well said. Now where are the comments from real W:ET veterans? :D
they are enjoying themselves. If they enjoy the game, chances are they are still playing it.
Stektr33
06-19-2007, 04:10 AM
i can beat anyone on thumb wars
JackDeath
06-19-2007, 04:11 AM
You get the beta and whats the 1st thing you do ?
A: team up and play as a team.
B: Yay im in and run round blowing crap up and shotting at everything and running about like headless chickens :-P
From the post i would go with B.
This game is the best ever!!!!
OH MY GOD IT so FLIPPIN AWESOME.
1.6% Downloaded.
=(
jeeves
06-19-2007, 04:13 AM
i just wished they would have shown more videos of firefights how they really are...if i wanted this type i would just play quake 3. this game is actually faster than quake 3, i guess some people like that but i think it is an odd mixture having rifles/military type game with faster than quake 3 speed. quake 3 is my favorite game of all time, so don't think that i just hate fast paced games, because i don't. i REALLY need a new computer for this too. when people move at blazing speeds i need some fps to track them.
DiecastV
06-19-2007, 04:14 AM
i can beat anyone on thumb wars
I bet you can hehehehe not!!! :dance: :dance: :dance:
me666
06-19-2007, 04:14 AM
You get the beta and whats the 1st thing you do ?
A: team up and play as a team.
B: Yay im in and run round blowing crap up and shotting at everything and running about like headless chickens :-P
From the post i would go with B.
where to? ;)
silent
06-19-2007, 04:14 AM
You get the beta and whats the 1st thing you do ?
A: team up and play as a team.
B: Yay im in and run round blowing crap up and shotting at everything and running about like headless chickens :-P
From the post i would go with B.
heh heh ya, I would enjoy myself a little bit first.
hahaha cant wait until you play it and realise how crap it really is.
Dude I would kick your ass in any game, hit me up on x fire and try me
Ohhh big words here. I would take the challenge even if your not asking me. I think my 6+years of quake duelling/tdming, my money making cod1 competitive days and my 2 years of wet would back me up somehow.
bruno.c
06-19-2007, 04:16 AM
the biggest problem with ETQW is that it became really popular, so we have people from all kinds of different games, who want ETQW to be like "the other game".
That's the main reason why we have to keep listening BS from people from battlefield2, america's army and so on... They want ETQW to be the new Battlefield 2142, but improved... WELL, IT IS NOT.
most of the people who thinks that gameplay sucks (cause you can strafe while you're shooting, OMG!) probably never played old school FPS.
s2n MaTTi
06-19-2007, 04:16 AM
Ohhh big words here. I would take the challenge even if your not asking me. I think my 6+years of quake duelling/tdming, my money making cod1 competitive days and my 2 years of wet would back me up somehow.
X-Fire: s2nsquad
rdy?
chillar15
06-19-2007, 04:16 AM
For those of you that have patience to adapt to the new style of game play, it should be fun; but for those who don't wanna take the time to learn the game, it's gonna be worse than you could have imagined.
EDIT: As a BF2/BF2142 player, I liked it, but the shooting seems a lot more Quake-like then I would've expected. After I got the hang of it, I enjoyed it though :) .
FireWater
06-19-2007, 04:18 AM
X-Fire: s2nsquad
rdy?
How much money did you make professionally again?
s2n MaTTi
06-19-2007, 04:18 AM
How much money did you make professionally again?
It's not all about money wanna 1v1 also?
Oompa
06-19-2007, 04:19 AM
http://theoompa.com/Stuff/index.php?dir=QuakeWars%2F some screenies. Videos to follow. Credit to Hezzy.
Zarkow
06-19-2007, 04:19 AM
MaTTI: How about you go to the website in your signature and read what it says under 'creed' about behaivor towards others. Who knows, you might find something new...
s2n MaTTi
06-19-2007, 04:20 AM
MaTTI: How about you go to the website in your signature and read what it says under 'creed' about behaivor towards others. Who knows, you might find something new...
Oh I know howto follow my own creed but not when ignorant people like yourself can't handle critisism on a game you have yet to even try.
FireWater
06-19-2007, 04:20 AM
Well you said you played professionally, meaning you would have made some sort of income off your gaming abilities right?
Or are you just one of those poseurs that think just because they play for an online team that they are finally professional at something.
Why are you so eager to challenge, are you that insecure about yourself? Would beating me make you more of a "professional?"
Give me a ****ing break and grow up :)
engrpiman
06-19-2007, 04:21 AM
i PLAYED IT !!! graphics are off but that is because it does not support 1280x1024 but other then that works ok.
I like the sounds and the driving and it seem to bee a success I can't wait to play the bots
Zarkow
06-19-2007, 04:23 AM
Oh I know howto follow my own creed but not when ignorant people like yourself can't handle critisism on a game you have yet to even try.
Like myself? Try to find a post in this thread that would warrant that, please.
See, without hesitating you already break your teams creed and show what kind of asshats you truly are. You aren't any 'leet' e-sport team. You are arrogant wannabies. :rolleyes:
s2n MaTTi
06-19-2007, 04:24 AM
Well you said you played professionally, meaning you would have made some sort of income off your gaming abilities right?
Or are you just one of those poseurs that think just because they play for an online team that they are finally professional at something.
Why are you so eager to challenge, are you that insecure about yourself? Would beating me make you more of a "professional?"
Give me a ****ing break and grow up :)
What I earn has nothing todo with a e thug such as yourself therefore won't be giving you that information :O
If you wish to know my competative background talk to me direct eh?
me666
06-19-2007, 04:24 AM
i PLAYED IT !!! graphics are off but that is because it does not support 1280x1024 but other then that works ok.
I like the sounds and the driving and it seem to bee a success I can't wait to play the bots
r_mode 10? edit: r_mode 9?
Nuh uh - MINE IS BIGGEST!!!
Edit: 7% downloaded
FireWater
06-19-2007, 04:29 AM
Well its spelled Competitive, and I can tell that you are getting riled up (over the internet no less, which makes for even more hilarity)
I would love to challenge your team when the retail game is out.
I am not asking you about your income from your day job, I am asking how much you made from gaming professionally.
The answer is probably 0 and I would even hedge a bet that you've never even competed at a LAN tournament before.
eThug eh? Stop taking things you don't like about yourself and placing them on me :)
dohfOs
06-19-2007, 04:30 AM
http://dohfos.blogspot.com/search/label/etqw
vid's n' screeens. Hezzy's actually. i'm just hosting 'em :)
silent
06-19-2007, 04:30 AM
http://theoompa.com/Stuff/index.php?dir=QuakeWars%2F some screenies. Videos to follow. Credit to Hezzy.
these are great. The graphics look fine but they do need to be polished, many thanks.
Salteh
06-19-2007, 04:30 AM
i PLAYED IT !!! graphics are off but that is because it does not support 1280x1024 but other then that works ok.
I like the sounds and the driving and it seem to bee a success I can't wait to play the bots
Select 'LCD( 5:4 )' in the aspect ratio box, below the resolution box.
1280x1024 will then be available :).
Go3th3
06-19-2007, 04:33 AM
Thx a lot to Oompa and dohfOs (and Hezzy) for screenies and vids.
And Dulu for the laughs :-)
qwcfab
06-19-2007, 04:34 AM
I’m an ex-Return to Castle Wolfenstein and Wolfentein Enemy Territory player, I was lucky enough to play Quake Wars in April at the Splash Damage offices. Admittedly it wasn’t the beta, but I did get 3 or 4 rounds of Sewer.
Firstly let me say that I felt Quake Wars was a worthy successor to W:ET the Infantry combat was very similar, maybe a little slower but definitely just as intense. The vehicles added a great new dynamic to the game and were not overpowered at all, don’t expect to go up against a tank and live though ;)
I was surprised at how much game play is altered by the use of deployables, they add a whole new tactical element that I found very refreshing, a well set up or well utilised deployable can swing the battle either way. For example I found a few bottlenecks where I could set up an Anti-Personnel Turret and by setting it up in the right place the enemy was held back until they figured out a way to flank or destroy it - this provided my team with vital time in which to get to the objective and defend.
The graphics where phenomenal I was very impressed with them, I was however on a stupidly spec’d machine so I had everything running at maximum.
silent
06-19-2007, 04:35 AM
http://dohfos.blogspot.com/search/label/etqw
vid's n' screeens. Hezzy's actually. i'm just hosting 'em :)
that one hit he did with the cannon was nice :cool:
After seing these, there is no doubt in my mind that I will like this as much as I did wolf
digital
06-19-2007, 04:37 AM
Seriously though I'm not refering so much to how it looks I mean more of how it is in general. I'm certain that 90% of pre- BF vetrans won't like this one bit and will be extremely dissapointed. Sorry to those of you who are very excited about this but you'll get your chance to see for yourself.
Sorry, don't normally get irrate but this is a joke!
How long have we been saying its not bf2. If you give it some time the gameplay will grow on you. BTW matti whats your comp back ground.
DreAdeDcoRpSE
06-19-2007, 04:41 AM
My first impressions was that the game is nice, graphics looked great but it seemed that I lagged a little. I am figuring that I have to bring down my settings a bit. Another problem I am having, and I have had this problem with ET is that every time I log off and go back to my desktop. My desktop colors are off on the brightness and its so bright I can see or read anything, I literly have to restart my PC to be able to do anything. I talked to a few of my friends that have played ET and are hoping to get on the beta soon and they have had the same problem as I am describing. Anyone else have this problem or know of a solution???
silent
06-19-2007, 04:42 AM
How long have we been saying its not bf2. If you give it some time the gameplay will grow on you. BTW matti whats your comp back ground.
Trust me, if you loved Wolf you will love this. After seeing those Hezzy vids and pics, I looks like I would love it just as much if not more than wolf et.
jonny b
06-19-2007, 04:50 AM
IDK. I love ET and Wolf, Quake 1,2 & 3. However this game reminds me too much of BF2. :/ The game play has really changed IMO. I'm sure I'll get used to it... So I won't jump to any conclusions and say it's bad, cause its not. Just different, evolution. :)
mortis
06-19-2007, 04:50 AM
It’s hardly surprising that the Battlefield fan boys are complaining already. They came expecting Battlefield but instead they got something completely different. You spend your time complaining about BF but you get up in arms when you play a game that is not a copy of it, makes no sense. Quake Wars was never meant to be like BF.
Holy F1, Batman!
mortis
06-19-2007, 04:52 AM
i PLAYED IT !!! graphics are off but that is because it does not support 1280x1024 but other then that works ok.
I like the sounds and the driving and it seem to bee a success I can't wait to play the bots
It does, look under 5:4 ratio
mortis
06-19-2007, 04:54 AM
My first impressions was that the game is nice, graphics looked great but it seemed that I lagged a little. I am figuring that I have to bring down my settings a bit. Another problem I am having, and I have had this problem with ET is that every time I log off and go back to my desktop. My desktop colors are off on the brightness and its so bright I can see or read anything, I literly have to restart my PC to be able to do anything. I talked to a few of my friends that have played ET and are hoping to get on the beta soon and they have had the same problem as I am describing. Anyone else have this problem or know of a solution???
A cheap solution i use is to start Wolf ET and then close it after it loads. It resets the screen for some reason...
jonny b
06-19-2007, 04:55 AM
Holy F1, Batman!
Even though the game was not meant to look like BF2 it inadvertently does. Thats not to say it's bad or anything. Cause we all know Id & SD can release a much better game than EA any day of the week :).
qwcfab
06-19-2007, 04:56 AM
Even though the game was not meant to look like BF2 it inadvertently does. Thats not to say it's bad or anything. Cause we all know Id & SD can release a much better game than EA any day of the week :). I really don't see how it does :confused:
Please explain.
I have had this problem with ET is that every time I log off and go back to my desktop. My desktop colors are off on the brightness and its so bright I can see or read anything, I literly have to restart my PC to be able to do anything. I talked to a few of my friends that have played ET and are hoping to get on the beta soon and they have had the same problem as I am describing. Anyone else have this problem or know of a solution???
Thats a problem with the doom3 engine. I use a lil exe nammed gamma.exe to reset my desktop gamma. I have uploaded it to my filefront profile. All you need to do is execute it when your desktop brightness is too high because of the game. It sometimes didnt work on me tho. http://files.filefront.com/gammaexe/;7823151;;/fileinfo.html
Darkness429
06-19-2007, 04:58 AM
im having the hardest time flying the freaking Hornet....anyone figured it out yet?
jonny b
06-19-2007, 04:59 AM
The general "look" of the game seem to be so far from what Wolf/ET looked like. In order for people to compare it to another game, BF2 is the closest thing in resemblance.
E.G: the movement of the character seems to be more fluid (more human) instead of toonish...
Ashen-Shugar
06-19-2007, 05:00 AM
i went from high, to med. to low settings and still only got 30fps. This was on a 6800gs so I'm not sure if my card is just weak or not
my game history is MOHAA and BF2 and I love QW. Don't see why anyone would complain
deployables are the shit. we were stuck trying to get teh EPM for like 10 minutes, I deployed the hammer and found a good spot and boom, took out like 8 Strogg that were camping the EPM. our egineers went in and finally took it.
It was luck though as there is no communication at all. No voip, no squads, no communication (or at least I couldn't figure it out)
Im the only one in my clan that has the beta so i have nobody to talk to :(
lol
good stuff
jonny b
06-19-2007, 05:00 AM
not to mention the new MEGA maps that you can explore, unlike the old ET maps where you're basically pushed along a specific path.
Like it said, it's evolution (of the game).
Oh and there are vehicles that you can play with, and drive all over the place unline ET where they were on a Mover path (or something).
DreAdeDcoRpSE
06-19-2007, 05:01 AM
A cheap solution i use is to start Wolf ET and then close it after it loads. It resets the screen for some reason...
I will try that with QW, but I have to say that something should be fixed about that before the full version comes out, because it does get annoying, Like I use a minimizer and it messes up my screen so if someone IM's me all it can see is like a bright white so when I played ET, it got to the point where I wouldn't minimize my screen but then problems arose for when I got to some of the IM's that people sent, they were letting me know that we had a Wall Hacker/aim botter on my server and if I could come in and take care of the problem. usually by then it was to late.
So SD guys, That is the first thing I suggest looking into or coming up with a solution. Hopefully there will be a game minimizer that comes out like Q3E, that wouldn't have that problem...
Gorillaman
06-19-2007, 05:03 AM
Oh I know howto follow my own creed but not when ignorant people like yourself can't handle critisism on a game you have yet to even try.
They act like they made the game. Even SD has issues with critisism and their game.
Don't worry about Matti. I've said it before, people in this community are wierd.
jonny b
06-19-2007, 05:03 AM
make sure you post your issues in the correct boards. :)
as for FPS
I think you need to type
com_unlockFPS "1"
then
com_unlockfps_max "125" ?
not 100% sure.
me666
06-19-2007, 05:04 AM
A cheap solution i use is to start Wolf ET and then close it after it loads. It resets the screen for some reason...
depends on the gamma and brigthness you have actually ingame. set both of them to 1 (default) and exit the game; if this doesn't bring back the windows gamma try the same with a forced (cmd) crash in the console...gl
DreAdeDcoRpSE
06-19-2007, 05:05 AM
Thats a problem with the doom3 engine. I use a lil exe nammed gamma.exe to reset my desktop gamma. I have uploaded it to my filefront profile. All you need to do is execute it when your desktop brightness is too high because of the game. It sometimes didnt work on me tho. http://files.filefront.com/gammaexe/;7823151;;/fileinfo.html
Thanks...
I will give this a try when I go back on QW. I am just trying to clean up my PC a bit now, kind of have allot of junk I want to move off of it. I am also ready to delete my McAfee off my PC, its bogging it down like its from the early 90's.
mortis
06-19-2007, 05:06 AM
6600GT is the beta minimum, so you are barely there...
i went from high, to med. to low settings and still only got 30fps. This was on a 6800gs so I'm not sure if my card is just weak or not
my game history is MOHAA and BF2 and I love QW. Don't see why anyone would complain
deployables are the shit. we were stuck trying to get teh EPM for like 10 minutes, I deployed the hammer and found a good spot and boom, took out like 8 Strogg that were camping the EPM. our egineers went in and finally took it.
It was luck though as there is no communication at all. No voip, no squads, no communication (or at least I couldn't figure it out)
Im the only one in my clan that has the beta so i have nobody to talk to :(
lol
good stuff
jeez, thread got 2 pages longer while I was typing, gotta get new glasses lol
jonny b
06-19-2007, 05:07 AM
this game's gonna rock when everyone figures it out :)
jonny b
06-19-2007, 05:07 AM
probably one of the people who think Quake Wars will be BF just fixed, they're in for a BIG shock, no camping
Yeah, gotta love the Base gates and Anti-camping guns :)
me666
06-19-2007, 05:08 AM
make sure you post your issues in the correct boards. :)
as for FPS
I think you need to type
com_unlockFPS "1"
then
com_unlockfps_max "125" ?
not 100% sure.
maybe a dev can give us a hint or an better explenation of what the corresponding com_unlock_timingmethod stands for?
jonny b
06-19-2007, 05:10 AM
yeah, id love to know for sure too.
Ashen-Shugar
06-19-2007, 05:26 AM
so far one disconnect but that was because the Chicago Hypernia server went down, we then had to go to the Dallas server
I had one crash myself as I was trying to join a server but not sure what caused it.
Played at least 15-20 games and it all went smoothly. Def. felt way better then a beta.
If they can make it even more smoother and graphics sharper, omg, you guys are in for a treat
Ifurita
06-19-2007, 05:32 AM
make sure you post your issues in the correct boards. :)
as for FPS
I think you need to type
com_unlockFPS "1"
then
com_unlockfps_max "125" ?
not 100% sure.
Would that be considered cheating by the "no tweak" crowd? :)
space
06-19-2007, 05:35 AM
I can't read this thread it makes me crazy!! !!! !! :D
me666
06-19-2007, 05:37 AM
Would that be considered cheating by the "no tweak" crowd? :)
how childish...feel free with the common r_uifullscreen behavior
Ashen-Shugar
06-19-2007, 05:54 AM
ok, i changed from wide screen to 4:3 and got 60 FPS so that is better.
I just have to get a better card.
pitchblende
06-19-2007, 05:56 AM
I come from Q2, Q3 and W:ET and I have to say that this is so much better than Doom 3 and Quake 4 when they were released. Looks like actual thought went into this game.
TheBladeRoden
06-19-2007, 05:59 AM
Okay is the game good this hour compared to when it was bad last hour? :mad:
bfdhud
06-19-2007, 06:12 AM
It's funny how the people who have played the beta post their comments and are criticized by the people who have not played the beta.
just an observation. If someone who has played it says xxxxxxx is wrong with the game or xxxxxxx isn't what I expected from the game. Well thats their opinion and you should at least respect it.
If you haven't played it yet, you really don't have the right to be flaming the person because their opinion doesn't sync up with what you think.
I got in some games earlier this evening and enjoyed it despite having 30fps.
*edit* Okay, I just connected to a server and have 60fps... go figure.
shaky
06-19-2007, 06:45 AM
Everyone that gets into the beta should open the console and type htmlcvars. It will dump almost all commands/cvars from the game into a nice html file with pretty decent descriptions. This is a copy/paste from it:
om_unlock_avgFrames average out render times over n frames for extra renders management
type: int
com_unlock_maxFPS maximum FPS unlock will try to reach (only works in timing methods 1 & 2) - zero = no limit
type: int
com_unlock_safetyMargin percentage safety margin under which not to trigger an extra render
type: float
com_unlock_timingMethod method of timing interpolated/extrapolated frames: 0 = whenever they fit; 1 = on boundaries of framerate multiples of 30; 2 = like 1, but using total previous everything time to estimate, not just render time
type: int
com_unlockFPS allow renderer to go faster than game ticks
type: bool
default: 1 (true)
me666
06-19-2007, 06:46 AM
I got in some games earlier this evening and enjoyed it despite having 30fps.
*edit* Okay, I just connected to a server and have 60fps... go figure.
it really suxs and isn't worth the time so...just pm me the pssst serverlicensekeycode :rolleyes:
me666
06-19-2007, 06:49 AM
Everyone that gets into the beta should open the console and type htmlcvars. It will dump almost all commands/cvars from the game into a nice html file with pretty decent descriptions.
net_allowCheats :Allow cheats in network game
type: bool
default: 0 (false)
:dance:
Maybe take a step forward in game technology instead of 6 steps backward?
and way to take 8 steps backwards with BF:2142.
Ender-Wiggin.DA.
06-19-2007, 07:03 AM
the firefights are ridiculous...people strafing side to side at blazing speeds until someone dies.
Excellent! Hopefully it's faster than when Tosspot played? I want my lean gazelle. :)
shaky
06-19-2007, 07:04 AM
net_allowCheats :Allow cheats in network game
type: bool
default: 0 (false)
:dance:
Goddamnit did you have to type that right before v1D got here??
Hollywood
06-19-2007, 11:49 AM
My initial impressions are not good I'm afraid. I played RTCW from the demo until the day it died, played ET quite a lot, but ET:QW just doesn't feel right to me. It just feels very heavy and clumsy is the only way I can describe it, the 1on1 firefights don't have the same feel as they do in ET.
Graphically I expected more as well, with the whole fuss about megatextures. I am running it on full on a 8800gts but it doesn't look as good as I thought it would having seen the 8800 launch video, possibly it's just the sewer map. There is also a lot of foliage pop up.
Believe me, I've been looking forward to this for a long time and I didn't expect to be so negative about it. I will be playing the beta a lot more, and trying out various settings to try and improve things, but these are my initial thoughts. I would like to see what other players from a RTCW/ET background think.
AKA Sneaky
06-19-2007, 11:54 AM
It's the beta. Beta usually don't look good or don't run very well (on purpose). Wait for demo or official release.
I think the gameplay is there for a great game they didn't come up short in that department. The game simply needs a lot of work. Time to fix the bugs and crashes, time to fix the horrendous vehicle controls and physics, time to improve network and server performance, time to improve sound. I just hope there is that time.
ImoldGreggg!
06-19-2007, 12:14 PM
It's the beta. Beta usually don't look good or don't run very well (on purpose). Wait for demo or official release.
Exacly - Thats why its a beta
NoControl
06-19-2007, 12:19 PM
I'm pretty sure that with these 60k players they will get alot of feedback, and so will be able to tweak the game to a better direction. This is the purpose of the beta, and final product will be much more polished.
me666
06-19-2007, 12:20 PM
...I played RTCW from the demo until the day it died, played ET quite a lot...
Believe me, I've been looking forward to this for a long time and I didn't expect to be so negative about it. I will be playing the beta a lot more, and trying out various settings to try and improve things, but these are my initial thoughts. I would like to see what other players from a RTCW/ET background think.
same here but, err, you really never played doom3 and quake4 and couldn't guess this? the engines are getting fatter so the gameplay (feeling) does. nothing i would mind unless the speed remains kinda the same...
...and final product will be much more polished.
fingers crossed ;)
Hollywood
06-19-2007, 12:21 PM
It's the beta. Beta usually don't look good or don't run very well (on purpose). Wait for demo or official release.
I know it's the beta, the title of this thread is "ET:QW public beta first impressions", I am giving my impression of the graphics in the beta. Whether they will change in the demo or final release no one knows.
ImoldGreggg!
06-19-2007, 12:24 PM
I know it's the beta, the title of this thread is "ET:QW public beta first impressions", I am giving my impression of the graphics in the beta. Whether they will change in the demo or final release no one knows.
I cant fire it up till end of work - its killing me! :(
me666
06-19-2007, 12:29 PM
I cant fire it up till end of work - its killing me! :(
thanks to our buddy MackTheKnife for maybe helping you out of this situation...
...kill someone at work so that you can spawn off their dead body the next day and save time so that you can play ETQW in the morning.
...kill the boss a few hours after you get to work, then you wear his skin so you can pretend to be him, get past security and no-one will tell you off for going home at lunch-time to play ETQW.
AKA Sneaky
06-19-2007, 12:30 PM
I know it's the beta, the title of this thread is "ET:QW public beta first impressions", I am giving my impression of the graphics in the beta. Whether they will change in the demo or final release no one knows.
They probably do this to optimize codes for lower end computer and servers testing, also find out engine flaws.. by straining it. I'm not a programmer so i don't really know how this works, but that's what they do.
Flesh
06-19-2007, 12:31 PM
So whats the gameplay like compared to ET? Faster or slower? How do the vehicles work out?
me666
06-19-2007, 12:33 PM
So whats the gameplay like compared to ET? Faster or slower? How do the vehicles work out?
It just feels very heavy and clumsy is the only way I can describe it, the 1on1 firefights don't have the same feel as they do in ET.
what he said!
ImoldGreggg!
06-19-2007, 12:36 PM
lol thanks me666 i will try that,
most annoying thing is my work machine is a XPS ! would run sweeeet!
How come ppl have played it? its not even out yet on fileplanet
NoControl
06-19-2007, 12:39 PM
Did you read the announcement? Those with new annual subscription will be the first ones to play.
ImoldGreggg!
06-19-2007, 12:40 PM
How come ppl have played it? its not even out yet on fileplanet
If you subscribe to fileplanet and kiss thier ass you can get the beta with key -
http://www.fileplanet.com/promotions/quakewars/subscribe_sp.shtml
rollocks thats all i can say
Flesh
06-19-2007, 12:41 PM
Did anyone try out the bots? Also, can someone who played ET compare the gameplay in these two games.
If you subscribe to fileplanet and kiss thier ass you can get the beta with key -
http://www.fileplanet.com/promotions/quakewars/subscribe_sp.shtml
I pay monthly for FP, so im not gonna get a key?/ this is BS:( I ain't paying £20 for the BETA no way
ImoldGreggg!
06-19-2007, 12:44 PM
I pay monthly for FP, so im not gonna get a key?/ this is BS:( I ain't paying £20 for the BETA no way
Yeah its pretty below the belt TBH
gamma
06-19-2007, 12:44 PM
lolz just watching some vids of the game,lmfao you call that fast it looks same as w;et speed wise. i bet its just all these bf2 players and graw players coming in never played w;et comparing it to their old games
ImoldGreggg!
06-19-2007, 12:45 PM
I signed up yesterday, and had to re-subscribe today!
lame, but i have it now
Sainted
06-19-2007, 12:46 PM
Did anyone try out the bots? Also, can someone who played ET compare the gameplay in these two games.
I wont be telling you how the competive players like it because they are crying like usually..
Flesh in the readme there is a huuuge list of bugs with the bots still.. Maybe implenting bots are the cause of this long delay? Have they even been added to the public beta?
dohfOs
06-19-2007, 12:47 PM
i just wished they would have shown more videos of firefights how they really are..
http://dohfos.blogspot.com/2007/06/etqw-beta-film-clips-day-1.html
top one shows some of that :eek:
Str0gg
06-19-2007, 12:50 PM
I've checked the videos and gameplay seems to be very,very fast...this reminds me on quake :)
ToonarmY
06-19-2007, 12:52 PM
How do i open console????
dohfOs
06-19-2007, 12:54 PM
How do i open console????
ctrl+alt+§
(the last sign in the button that should be located just above your tab)
Kamikazee
06-19-2007, 12:55 PM
I pay monthly for FP, so im not gonna get a key?/ this is BS:( I ain't paying £20 for the BETA no wayRead the articles on the community front page for some extra info.
A selected group of annual subscribers got to have a "sneak peek" first, as to test the distribution system with small numbers.
ToonarmY
06-19-2007, 01:03 PM
lol now whats the fps command
H.A.L.F
06-19-2007, 01:05 PM
I've checked the videos and gameplay seems to be very,very fast...this reminds me on quake :)
I just looked at those vids and it does not seem too fast to me which was a major concern of mine it seems alot slower than ET.
I am also hoping the game heavily relies on teamwork but i guess if you got a bunch of DM players in there at the momement they will play it as one. When we get a few people in there who are used to squad based tactics and start to owen the DM players the gameplay will evolve.
I aint played the game yet just my take on what i have seen from the beta vids.
PS if you are in the Public beta please feed us more videos ect to keep us going:) From what i heard you are not constricted by any NDA's.
Flesh
06-19-2007, 01:06 PM
http://dohfos.blogspot.com/2007/06/etqw-beta-film-clips-day-1.html
top one shows some of that :eek:
omfg that is a great gameplay video! I finally understand how it works. Just like ET. And its not bad at all.
Also, listen carefully to the Strogg voices at the end of the map:
GDF win by hacking the sewer controls and the Strogg says "We have been flushed. Earth humor, nevermind!" lol wtf was that xD
blodtang
06-19-2007, 01:07 PM
it's something like com_drawfps 1, type in com then hit TAB it will show you all related com_ commands.
ToonarmY
06-19-2007, 01:12 PM
hmm i got that but it seems limited at 30
engrpiman
06-19-2007, 01:25 PM
First impression:
look great, the ground is much better then Quake 4 and the water looks good. the graphics are a little raw but then again the beta client was only 840 Megabytes so I bet they had to compress the megatexture to make it fit.
I like how the game has trees, flowers, grass it adds to the game
All the guns feel good. I like the sights on them and I notices that the machine gun has a dynamic ammo belt (first game I have played were parts of a gun were dynamic , except for prey. I have only played GDF so I have not tested the strog yet.
The vehicles drive quite nicely.:dance: I love the addition of the speedometer it add to the game. Also SD was nice enough to provide full interiors for the vehicles , that is you see everything from the dash board to the hand on the wheel. (HL2 had no hands on the wheel and the was annoying ) .
The placement of deployable turrets work but is a little strange. when deploying you go to a third person mode and and from there you can place objects.
I had the game crash once while trying to deploy as a special op but that only happed once. I am able to play the beta on maxed out, or what appears to be maxed out setting and I have a 7900GT, Intel core 2 E6400 and 2 GB RAM so I thinks that the game scales nicely. the game has no tearing:cool: which I get with other games with V-sync ( I think it has to do with having two displays) .
NoControl
06-19-2007, 01:39 PM
Ah that is good news, no tearing without v-sync on? So far i have needed to force v-sync to prevent tearing(except Q3 engine) which is pretty damn annoying to me atleast.
Dark Matter
06-19-2007, 01:46 PM
Does middle of the week mean Wednesday? Thats when they said they would start distributing the keys. So that would mean Saturday would be when they start distributing keys to people w/o FP subscription, which is me.
:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:
[RS]MochiKing
06-19-2007, 01:46 PM
Well you said you played professionally, meaning you would have made some sort of income off your gaming abilities right?
Or are you just one of those poseurs that think just because they play for an online team that they are finally professional at something.
Why are you so eager to challenge, are you that insecure about yourself? Would beating me make you more of a "professional?"
Give me a ****ing break and grow up :)
You are the one that called him out in the first place. Instead of trying to compare e-peens or dollar signs why don't you just go play him instead of acting all tough and yet always finding an excuse to not actually get in a game with him. Stop trying to live off of past glories and step up or it is all just idle chatter.
Imo the one who needs to grow up is the one who calls someone out and doesn't follow through with it. ()
If you grow a pair and decide to game with him - screenshots of the scores or it didn't happen. :D
engrpiman
06-19-2007, 02:08 PM
Ah that is good news, no tearing without v-sync on? So far i have needed to force v-sync to prevent tearing(except Q3 engine) which is pretty damn annoying to me atleast.
No.. NO tearing with Vsync on. with duel displays it get small amounts of tearing with or with out vsync in my games. but QW seems to have fixed that because I have had no problems what so ever.
GalaxyPickle
06-19-2007, 02:35 PM
you people DO realize that from the... i dunno 100+ people playing right now... there are only maybe 3-5 people here voicing their hate for the game. so lets all relax....
NoControl
06-19-2007, 02:37 PM
Oops, meant to say no tearing with v-sync OFF ofcourse :rolleyes:
fungry
06-19-2007, 02:37 PM
yea... the people who are probably enjoying it are those busy playing. rather then posting. ;)
Colosus
06-19-2007, 02:46 PM
My opinions on the game thus far...
The game is fun to play. Have no doubt about that. The map they have in this beta is short, but has 3 objectives. First you must build an EMP generator to disable the Strogg shields. This gives you access to the sewer base. Inside the sewer base you have to plant explosives on the gates to blow them up and get access to the sewer controls. Then you must hack the sewer controls to win the map.
Each of these requirements needs a different class and a lot of protection as you're mostly wide open. The first requires an engineer, the second a soldier and the third a covert ops. They take about 60 seconds to complete where you can't move. If two people do it at once, it gets sped up. So teamwork is necessary along with whomever is defending you.
As Haggis said, the game is very twitchy. A disappointing problem with this is that the aim is not pinpoint liked you'd expect with a game this twitchy. The weapon spread is pretty exaggerated for my tastes and you don't have time to lie prone or crouch like in BF. It's in the middle and kind of uncomfortable there.
You can sprint for as long as you want and the battles are very fierce as you're all grouped in the same areas. The vehicles are by no means uber. You can destroy them with a bit of teamwork or patience. It takes 3 or 4 rockets to take out a walker or tank. The other vehicles are pretty weak.
The icarus thing (jetpack) is cool for jumping around, but Haggis is right that the "skiing" isn't there. No biggie. You also only get bombs to drop when using it. The turret deployment works well, but it takes a long time to deploy something especially given how easy they are to destroy.
All in all, I think the game has a lot of potential and can't wait to see more maps.
fungry
06-19-2007, 02:50 PM
aww sweet. unlimited sprinting :) hmmm i wonder if i'll be able to get a key :(
sigh... so looking forward to it.
space
06-19-2007, 03:05 PM
is there keys left?
NoControl
06-19-2007, 03:07 PM
No, all keys are gone.
hdonald
06-19-2007, 03:10 PM
this is gonna be sweet, go to hell with your bf2 ya nub =p
Ifurita
06-19-2007, 03:27 PM
The aim is a known issue that should be patched soon ... or so I'm told
madness
06-19-2007, 03:29 PM
What ? Game too fast for BF players ? :)
hehe..he ..he
Colosus
06-19-2007, 03:33 PM
I'm not sure if you're responding to my post or not, but I in no way implied it was too fast. I'm a Tribes player. This game is moving through molasses compared to Tribes.
I said it was uncomfortable having weapon spread with everyone jumping around and twitching since you never have a chance to crouch and/or lie prone. It's like they tried to split the difference between BF and Quake and it's a miss imo. The game's still fun. That's just my opinion.
renrut
06-19-2007, 03:43 PM
I am afraid that there may be nothing tactical about it if it's like quake.
You clearly don't have a clue what you're talking about.
Landis
06-19-2007, 03:54 PM
I'm not sure if you're responding to my post or not, but I in no way implied it was too fast. I'm a Tribes player. This game is moving through molasses compared to Tribes.
WooT. I too am a long time tribes player. If this is fast for tribes than im excited to try it :D
1Bravo
06-19-2007, 04:07 PM
So basically the only negative thing about the game play is just the fast pace and weapons aim?
I haven't played the game yet but I have watched some of the posted videos and yes characters seem to be somehow uber fast.
Will you guys then agree the game will be more fun if the character (Stroggs and Humans) speeds are reduced a little bit?
Also some "Aim and weapons feel" fine tuning will do the job?
If all this is true then game seems to be very good. There are team oriented objectives, good graphics or at least acceptable.
I do think everything will be about tweaking and balancing issues and perhaps trying to bring to a middle ground all the gaming tastes. Fast vs slow, tactical vs fun etc.
danteuk
06-19-2007, 04:11 PM
My first impressions.
Looks very cool, very good graphics, megatexture does make a difference.
Game play:
slighty more Quake3 than I would like in this type of objective based game. ( I love Q3 for DM and CTF ).
Vehicles seem mainly good for just getting you from Spawn to Battle in shortest possible time.( except the large ones obviously ).
It's too soon to judge much today because only a limited number of players and of course those that are crap or just hate it will get bored soon (hopefully) and leave room for people that really want to play as part of a team. I say if your serious stick with it because it will get better and people find the roles they like and are good at.
A lot of potential - definitely going to buy this on release.
engie^benjy
06-19-2007, 04:19 PM
i just watched another video on youtube, this guy was having a laugh... he killed his teammate by chasing him down and running him over in the buggy car (forgot the name) :D
he also planted an explosive on a strogg vehicle without the driver noticing :dance: ... no doubt this game has potential
1Bravo
06-19-2007, 04:21 PM
i just watched another video on youtube, this guy was having a laugh... he killed his teammate by chasing him down and running him over in the buggy car (forgot the name) :D
he also planted an explosive on a strogg vehicle without the driver noticing :dance: ... no doubt this game has potential
Lol linky please :p
engie^benjy
06-19-2007, 04:25 PM
Lol linky please :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK1XOC6ik-Y&NR=1
:oppressor:
Colosus
06-19-2007, 04:33 PM
So basically the only negative thing about the game play is just the fast pace and weapons aim?
I haven't played the game yet but I have watched some of the posted videos and yes characters seem to be somehow uber fast.
Will you guys then agree the game will be more fun if the character (Stroggs and Humans) speeds are reduced a little bit?
Also some "Aim and weapons feel" fine tuning will do the job?
If all this is true then game seems to be very good. There are team oriented objectives, good graphics or at least acceptable.
I do think everything will be about tweaking and balancing issues and perhaps trying to bring to a middle ground all the gaming tastes. Fast vs slow, tactical vs fun etc.
I wouldn't say the fast pace is a negative. The fast pace combined with weapon spread means you're wasting bullets most of the time. It just needs to be fine tuned imo.
1Bravo
06-19-2007, 04:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK1XOC6ik-Y&NR=1
:oppressor:
LOL thanks mate pretty cool video.. one of the best I have seen.. it gives you a good idea of the game..
madness
06-19-2007, 04:41 PM
I wouldn't say the fast pace is a negative. The fast pace combined with weapon spread means you're wasting bullets most of the time. It just needs to be fine tuned imo.
Hopefully they can fix that for the release :p
And the voice chats don't sound as good as RtCW/W:ET ones either ;(
Ashen-Shugar
06-19-2007, 04:53 PM
deployables are perfect. I saw a anti-vehicle put at least 3 shots on a walker before being blown up with help from a soilders gernade. I think it took 2 shots from the walker to disable it?? I then ran over and repaired it as it was not totally destroyed
That to me, is perfect. It is a little wait for it to be deployed but what do you want? Instant deployable?
Colosus
06-19-2007, 04:56 PM
deployables are perfect. I saw a anti-vehicle put at least 3 shots on a walker before being blown up with help from a soilders gernade. I think it took 2 shots from the walker to disable it?? I then ran over and repaired it as it was not totally destroyed
That to me, is perfect. It is a little wait for it to be deployed but what do you want? Instant deployable?
Honestly, when you're deploying something, having to wait 30-60 seconds for it to deploy (I don't know exact timing) is a really long time. Long enough that your positioning doesn't even matter anymore as that objective has already been taken and your deploy location is now invalid.
5-10 seconds max is what I was hoping for. And it only takes 1 volley of arty to destroy. Again, it's a balance. You can't make it weak and long to deploy. One or the other or they will only be used against newbies.
Ashen-Shugar
06-19-2007, 05:04 PM
well, it takes the same amount of arty to destroy the enemy's as well and the only ones that may lose out on position are the anti-personal and anti-vehicle. But you also don't want to be able to just drop the deployable s at teh drop of a hat. They are suppose to be an aid, not the main instrument of attack. It makes you really think on where to put them instead of just dropping them anywhere and having them do all your work for you
Czeko
06-19-2007, 05:11 PM
Hello everyone.
I didn't want to start new thread so I'll ask it here. Does anyone know if the beta works on Vista (32bit)?
I am aware that full version will work on Vista, but I just don't know whether should I install this Beta on win XP or Vista.
Thanks in advance and sorry for my poor English.
silent
06-19-2007, 05:13 PM
What ? Game too fast for BF players ? :)
hehe..he ..he
Aye, it got the same game speed of wolfy. Me likey
engie^benjy
06-19-2007, 05:27 PM
Hello everyone.
I didn't want to start new thread so I'll ask it here. Does anyone know if the beta works on Vista (32bit)?
I am aware that full version will work on Vista, but I just don't know whether should I install this Beta on win XP or Vista.
Thanks in advance and sorry for my poor English.
Yes it works on vista... :dance: :oppressor: :dance:
YurSem
06-19-2007, 05:41 PM
It doesn't matter, it was a great game in its time and many people still play it.
i agree :oppressor:
Jeebs
06-19-2007, 05:53 PM
i would pick Wolf ET enyday over BF series due to gameplay and the smooth engine...
but then i do hate bf with a passion but also respect it as some of my clan mates cames from there.
Nick_Stone
06-19-2007, 06:22 PM
Having played for most of the day, the vehicles are clumsy and awkward and the infantry fights are spray and pray strafe fights with the mixture of ridiculous amounts of hopping.
I know its still a BETA but it just lacks in certain areas IMO.
IMO at the moment, If running and hopping around is your thing then QW will be right up your street, If you were looking for a team orientated, tactical game then this is not for you.
ATM it's Something i wouldn't buy. But i look forward to getting some more hours gaming in and then making my mind up fully.
silent
06-19-2007, 06:24 PM
Having played for most of the day, the vehicles are clumsy and awkward and the infantry fights are spray and pray strafe fights with the mixture of ridiculous amounts of hopping.
I know its still a BETA but it just lacks in certain areas IMO.
IMO at the moment, If running and hopping around is your thing then QW will be right up your street, If you were looking for a team orientated, tactical game then this is not for you.
ATM it's Something i wouldn't buy. But i look forward to getting some more hours gaming in and then making my mind up fully.
Its not team oriented because everyone hasn't a single clue what they are doing at the moment for the time being.
Nick_Stone
06-19-2007, 06:26 PM
Very true, thats only my feelings atm.
I'm interested to see what happens with a few more hours in and shall see what i feel from there.
mothra
06-19-2007, 06:35 PM
sorry, but judging from the gameplayvideos those guys don't have a clue yet.
this is deathmatch. apart from that NOBODY played the game long enough to give any valid opinion apart from generalizations (too fast, too slow, too much spray). as soon as I see the first video where we are shown a coordinated teameffort to push the frontline to the next objective instead of teamkilling, blowing up vehicles and running into air strike areas by your own team, i can start forming an opinion. right now I'm just glad the game really exists, is playable and seems to be on track for release this year. ah, and the Oh-so-bad-30fps-cap is already addressed in a special sticky.
so please: wait a few days with your judgement.
Flesh
06-19-2007, 06:46 PM
Would someone please tell me how does the cov ops / infiltrator disguise system work? Aka how do you disgsuise yourself as an enemy soldier? Is it useful? Is the disguise hard to penetrate? How can you recognize a disguised enemy?
Anything? Please?
silent
06-19-2007, 07:41 PM
Would someone please tell me how does the cov ops / infiltrator disguise system work? Aka how do you disgsuise yourself as an enemy soldier? Is it useful? Is the disguise hard to penetrate? How can you recognize a disguised enemy?
Anything? Please?
Ya heh heh, I would like to know that too. Wan't to be able to know if its as easy as wolf to identify or if its harder.
Hey beta guys, did u see if the ping make a huge difference? What i am asking is does a guy with 50ms can be killed by another with 200ms ?
silent
06-19-2007, 07:45 PM
Hey beta guys, did u see if the ping make a huge difference? What i am asking is does a guy with 50ms can be killed by another with 200ms ?
Probably, the peoples ping doesn't affect the server, it affects them and them only.
Its funny, you can pick those that are BF fanbois, complaints about straffing, well how realistic was BF2? lets see, he who prones first wins!!
BF2 is spray and pray at its best, its full of dolphin diving twits, here you folks complain about straffing yet its more realistic than someone dolphine diving non stop, its far more feasible that a human could run side to side than it is they could jump to prone non stop.
silent
06-19-2007, 08:10 PM
Its funny, you can pick those that are BF fanbois, complaints about straffing, well how realistic was BF2? lets see, he who prones first wins!!
BF2 is spray and pray at its best, its full of dolphin diving twits, here you folks complain about straffing yet its more realistic than someone dolphine diving non stop, its far more feasible that a human could run side to side than it is they could jump to prone non stop.
actually dolphin diving could be quiet realistic, point the gun in front of you in one arm firing while belly flopping, heck even in football one of the exercises causes you to dive repeatably =D. Running side to side at the same constant speed without slowing down to change speed is fairly unrealistic.
gamma
06-19-2007, 08:16 PM
I'll be totally honest myself and the rest of my team are very dissapointed with what we've seen in the beta (don't flame me stating that it's a "BETA" ) It's nothing compared to the BF series in my honest opinion.
Hopefully some of you guys feel different.
if you love bf so much GO PLAY IT
silent
06-19-2007, 08:17 PM
if you love bf so much GO PLAY IT
Do as the funny man says ^^
Lekdevil.NL
06-19-2007, 08:19 PM
Would someone please tell me how does the cov ops / infiltrator disguise system work? Aka how do you disgsuise yourself as an enemy soldier? Is it useful? Is the disguise hard to penetrate? How can you recognize a disguised enemy?
Anything? Please?
You can take the uniform off an unconscious or dead enemy by standing over him and pressing your "use" key (default: F). After a few seconds, you're disguised.
When disguised, you cannot fire any of your main weapons; doing so will drop the disguise. Also, you cannot use any of the CovOps/Infiltrator tools (deploy tool, hack tool, etc.). Only the knife can be used to backstab enemies (which results in an instant kill), but if an enemy player sees you trying to stab him, you lose your disguise as well.
gamma
06-19-2007, 08:20 PM
Would someone please tell me how does the cov ops / infiltrator disguise system work? Aka how do you disgsuise yourself as an enemy soldier? Is it useful? Is the disguise hard to penetrate? How can you recognize a disguised enemy?
Anything? Please?
guessing its the same as w:et press f at a fallen soldier and grab his pants :p , and it could be hard to tell if you play the role properly
silent
06-19-2007, 08:26 PM
You can take the uniform off an unconscious or dead enemy by standing over him and pressing your "use" key (default: F). After a few seconds, you're disguised.
When disguised, you cannot fire any of your main weapons; doing so will drop the disguise. Also, you cannot use any of the CovOps/Infiltrator tools (deploy tool, hack tool, etc.). Only the knife can be used to backstab enemies (which results in an instant kill), but if an enemy player sees you trying to stab him, you lose your disguise as well.
Will you be able to hold your gun at all? if you do things right by grabbing his uniform and weapons, you will be a tad bit harder to detect (except by the guy you jacked the uni from)
CarRamrod
06-19-2007, 08:29 PM
Its funny, you can pick those that are BF fanbois, complaints about straffing, well how realistic was BF2? lets see, he who prones first wins!!
BF2 is spray and pray at its best, its full of dolphin diving twits, here you folks complain about straffing yet its more realistic than someone dolphine diving non stop, its far more feasible that a human could run side to side than it is they could jump to prone non stop.
They are equally as retarded. And its far more realistic that someone can get up and dive repeatedly than sprint running sideways back and forth.
Ashen-Shugar
06-19-2007, 08:41 PM
as long as we don't see a Strogg sliding across the map on his knees as he goes prone one shoting everyone, lmao
pitchblende
06-19-2007, 08:44 PM
No way should the speed be decreased. This isn't BF2 so stop trying it make it like it.
Lekdevil.NL
06-19-2007, 08:58 PM
Will you be able to hold your gun at all? if you do things right by grabbing his uniform and weapons, you will be a tad bit harder to detect (except by the guy you jacked the uni from)
You are holding the weapon of the enemy whom you're disguised as. There are no visual clues in the player models to spot disguised enemies. The only ways to detect one are:
Pointing your crosshair at him (which brings up the name of the player whose uniform was stolen) and noticing that there are two players with the same name. There is an "Enemy disguised as me!" quickchat; when a player calls that out when his pants are taken, it can help with the detection of the disguised player.
Shooting him and noticing that you hear an "enemy" hit sound instead of a "friendly" hit sound.
By listening to the heavy breathing of running players. A Strogg in disguise still sounds like a Strogg, and the same goes for the GDF players.
By looking for obvious strange behaviour, like players continually trying to sneak up on you from behind, holding a knife.
SmokeKingGun
06-19-2007, 09:02 PM
First impressions of beta not really too good but Im going to wait for actual demo to make my mind up.
The graphics really didnt seem that special to me although I was only playing at 1024x768 and tried turning various settings to high but at distance especially when moving to scopped playing as strogg, it looked very pixalated on the actual characters.
The hitboxes seem to be all over the shop but that could be down to my FPS (uncapped and tried various com_unlock_timing methods and 0 gave best me best FPS and seemed slightly smoother for me although Ive heard using 1 is better?)
Pings were great for me at one time on an nearly empty server (1 other player apart from me) we were both having pings of 1! under 40 was norm for me on UK servers.
Now for the vehicles I didnt really like BF2 and dont really like tanks, APC's etc and just think that it ruins the infantry battles. Can see it will be a rush for the best vehicles at the start just like it was in BF2, with the Tank and the strogg walker thingey (sorry forgot actual name of it!) being at a massive advantage. The icarus vehicle is fun at first but not if your the one being attacked on foot, it seems almost impossible to hit and you will just get bombed at left right and centre. Even when the crosshair is perfectly on them I was getting nothing but the occasional hit, again this could be down to my FPS, and may have to lead the target. In the end if someone attacked me I would just dodge the bombs and wait for them to land as It seemed a waste of ammo trying to hit them in air.
The actual speed seemed on par with ET and as Im used to that I didnt really notice it, was fine by me. Quick note you have unlimited sprint so can strafe/jump as much as you like in the beta but apart from that speed same as ET.
Ive been waiting a long time for this to come and was pretty excited by it, first impressions have dampened that but again Ill wait for finished demo. I think RTCW is one of the best games there is online closely followed by ET. At the moment i Would still say that, with the QW beta not coming close.
PC spec - P4 3.4 (oclocked Northwood 3GHZ socket 478) 1G Ram, 300GB hdisk, Leadtek Winfast A7800 GS TDH)
Lekdevil.NL
06-19-2007, 09:22 PM
Note that there are known issues with player prediction and hit detection in this build. Players and Icarii should be easier to hit as things get patched and fixed.
Nick_Stone
06-19-2007, 10:56 PM
Its funny, you can pick those that are BF fanbois, complaints about straffing, well how realistic was BF2? lets see, he who prones first wins!!
BF2 is spray and pray at its best, its full of dolphin diving twits, here you folks complain about strafing yet its more realistic than someone dolphine diving non stop, its far more feasible that a human could run side to side than it is they could jump to prone non stop.
Have you played the beta yet?
What has the BF series go to do with this?
Why do you feel the need to compare this game to BF2?
Venom[iTa]
06-19-2007, 11:06 PM
one question every weapons have the iron sight?:oppressor:
MekNaan
06-27-2007, 01:34 AM
i ****ing love this game and will be the first one in line at the store to buy it, it's great, and i just want to add that most people don't understand that this is a beta, things will change dramatically in the retail version.
and another thing, this game isn't for any gamer, i believe this is more biased towards the skilled players of the genre
t3nkuu
08-11-2007, 08:25 AM
Hello World!