What I Have read about the beta from you guys concerns me! [Archive] - Enemy Territory: QUAKE Wars Official Community Site

Strogg

06-19-2007, 03:52 AM

I know this is just a beta and I have not played the beat myself, but there seems to be some discontent about the beta thus far which is makes me concerned about the game itself. I have read stuff from other forums also.

Now what are all the issues have you guys found out so far.

1. How are the graphics?
2. How is the FPS?
3. Was there any lag during gameplay?
4. Was there any issues of being droped?
5. Any issues with the installation?
6. How was the gameplay?
7. Any server issues?
8. Were the pings low?
9. Was the game running to fast?
10.. Did the Beta live up tp your expections so far?

Just some the things that I was thnking about :confused:

s2n MaTTi

06-19-2007, 03:55 AM

1. Nothing that meets the hype
2. Capped at 30
3. Intense lag at times
4. Some iregular crashes
5. Installed fine
6. Terrible nothing more than a turkey shoot
7. Noe as of yet more bad net code
8. Average
9 Way to fast
10. Deffinately not, looking for a new game

PAIN

06-19-2007, 03:56 AM

Give it a rest. It's a beta. Wait and find out for yourself.

LaVaGoD

06-19-2007, 03:56 AM

qwcfab

06-19-2007, 03:59 AM

People started getting the beta today, right?

The people who enjoyed the game will probably still be playing, the disgruntled ones will be the most vocal as they always are – you won’t get anyone on here praising the beta for a while yet. Don’t make any decisions until you get a chance to play the game for yourself. So far all ive heard is people complaining because it’s not Battlefield.

s2n MaTTi

06-19-2007, 03:59 AM

I think you can download pacman for free now. That seems to be more up your alley

Try 4 years of pro level competative play and tell me I don't know how a game should be...... stupid douche

silent

06-19-2007, 03:59 AM

Its only a beta, Beta means the game hasn't gone gold=isn't perfect.... What does it matter cause all it is, is a beta.

LaVaGoD

06-19-2007, 04:03 AM

Try 4 years of pro level competative play and tell me I don't know how a game should be...... stupid douche

Wait...

Since when was clean and fresh a bad thing?

Oompa

06-19-2007, 04:04 AM

Try 4 years of pro level competative play and tell me I don't know how a game should be...... stupid douche

If it makes you that angry I'll happily take the key off of your hands...

s2n MaTTi

06-19-2007, 04:05 AM

If it makes you that angry I'll happily take the key off of your hands...

2 late lol

PAIN

06-19-2007, 04:07 AM

Try 4 years of pro level competative play and tell me I don't know how a game should be...... stupid douche

and have you played W:ET?? If so, how does it compare to that?

I think most of us could care less about how it compares to BF.

silent

06-19-2007, 04:08 AM

There is no reason to be giving reports about gameplay. You have only played 1 map, and thats it. When it goes gold and it still looks like this is when we have an issue, its only a beta.

Zanboo

06-19-2007, 04:11 AM

Try 4 years of pro level competative play and tell me I don't know how a game should be...... stupid douche

Lol, I hope you don't consider Battlefield 2 to be the pinnacle of competitive gaming.

8 v 8 CAL was a shithole, it was a terrible game to play competitively, and then you got the shaft from EA on 2142.

Brinkman

06-19-2007, 04:16 AM

im worried the game will be TOO fast :-/

Dulu

06-19-2007, 04:21 AM

and have you played W:ET?? If so, how does it compare to that?

I think most of us could care less about how it compares to BF.

From what I've heard in vent, it does seem to be a lot like W:ET.

Before I found out about this game, I was a CS player, competively... and I was told to go test out W:ET, at first I hated it. I thought it was too fast, and I didnt know what the heck I was doing. Plus I sucked - so that of course didnt help.

Once I played for a few days, and learned the ropes, I found it was a lot of fun. I discovered my tactical skills I honed in CS came in handy with certain classes, and that yes, the game does cater to people who like to run and spray. But it also caters to people from CS,BF type games, where you can use team tactics, sneak behind enemy lines, snipe people, etc.

Give it a chance - the play style grows on you.

2.4% downloaded

Cant wait~

Mr. Redline

06-19-2007, 04:21 AM

Try 4 years of pro level competative play and tell me I don't know how a game should be...... stupid douche

4 years of pro level competative play in enemy territory > the ladder in a battlefield game

sponge

06-19-2007, 04:22 AM

If it's as fast as Q3 OSP or Q4, then great. Any faster and it's starting to get too fast for my tastes. According to Tosspot's article, it's slower than both, so I can't help but to chuckle to myself at the game apparently being too fast.

To each, their own, I suppose. Although making such decisive judgments this early on is a bit foolish.

Zanboo

06-19-2007, 04:27 AM

It's nowhere close to as fast as Q4/Q3... and I've seen a lot of teamwork, cover, etc.

kmfdm

06-19-2007, 04:34 AM

Try 4 years of pro level competative play and tell me I don't know how a game should be...... stupid douche

With that experience you should really apply at some gaming companies. They're looking for people with no skills at all, but have lots of ideas and competitive experience. Very rare commodity nowadays.

CommanderZx2

06-19-2007, 05:55 AM

It's probably capped at 30fps, because it's being released on the 360 as well. This is what happens when you get console ports.

Take for example C&C 3, capped at 30fps and so it sucks.

Nail

06-19-2007, 06:00 AM

it's not capped at 30, just default setting, you can change it

me666

06-19-2007, 06:05 AM

it's not capped at 30, just default setting, you can change it

so we will bow down and listen...how?

sponge

06-19-2007, 06:06 AM

Frost

06-19-2007, 06:09 AM

I just got done playing a few games and the only problem i had was one server crashed around 15 minutes into the game..I capped my fps at 60 and will slowly raise it as I go..It seems like it will be fun game after i get use to it of course lol..After getting plowed over by a tank i decided to take more of a defensive approach for now lol...I have e6400 duo core with a 7600gt pcie with 2 gigs of ram..I t seemed pretty smooth for a beta..I have to say good job so far and hope it only gets better..I would recommend going into the folder in my documents and adjusting your controls and graphics before playing..When i first went on i was all over the place but it got better once the keys felt familiar to me..I cant wait to see everyone on here and i will say gg's for now...Oh yeah about the graphics they seem to be ok and my ping was alittle above average for me(80) usually around 48 in that area i was playing

TheBladeRoden

06-19-2007, 06:09 AM

I'd be lucky to reach 20 with my rig so its not a problem

Nail

06-19-2007, 06:11 AM

No, the default setting is not 30, the default setting is 60.

com_unlock_maxfps xx where xx is the FPS you want to cap it to.
You can also choose to lock it to 30 with com_unlockfps 1 if you have a crappy PC.

sorry, I was mis-informed

me666

06-19-2007, 06:12 AM

DreAdeDcoRpSE

06-19-2007, 06:21 AM

1. How are the graphics?

The graphics seem to be what you would expect. Looks simmular to ET but better.

2. How is the FPS?

Varies depending on what server I connected to. I have to say that I was topping about 50+, But I still have some adjusting to do.

3. Was there any lag during gameplay?

Yes, more than I would like. but I think that is cause I have the settings up to high, so on the next run I will go with a lower setting to see if that helps a little.

4. Was there any issues of being droped?

I havent been droped yet but i have heard of some issues of that, Time will tell, I still havent been able to explore the map yet, I am thinking of finding an empty server and explore and try to test out a few things...

5. Any issues with the installation? Nope, everything went smoothly, installation went as well as can be expected...

6. How was the gameplay?

Game play was a little faster then what I am used to. Speeds on characters seem a little to fast for humans. Seems like they are track stars that can do the 50 meter in 9 seconds.

7. Any server issues?

As of now, no, but I did notice my best ping I could get was 72 for servers, most of them were 150+

8. Were the pings low?

I wish they were low, that would mean better for me. I believe you wanted to say high, not low...

9. Was the game running to fast?

Game speed overall wasn't to bad. just a few things about the movement speed of the characters just seem a little to fast.

10.. Did the Beta live up tp your expections so far?

For a beta, its what I expected. There are some minor issues that need to be worked on but overall its nice. but you have to give me a little more time to be able to try every class and test things and see how they move and react.

me666

06-19-2007, 06:30 AM

1. How are the graphics?

The graphics seem to be what you would expect. Looks simmular to ET but better.

megatexture, shadowvolumes, normal+specular+displacement? mapping, broken openal ;) , wanna count on? maybe try high befor making any assumptions...

Gorillaman

06-19-2007, 06:37 AM

Lol, I hope you don't consider Battlefield 2 to be the pinnacle of competitive gaming.

8 v 8 CAL was a shithole, it was a terrible game to play competitively, and then you got the shaft from EA on 2142.

You kwazy.

BF2142 does exactly as it was intended. Nothing more, nothing less.

It's not perfect, but it's fun and that's all that counts. A 64 player game is mayhem, and I enjoy the hell out of it.

TheBladeRoden

06-19-2007, 06:45 AM

So did anyone find a bug submission form yet?

Nail

06-19-2007, 06:47 AM

So did anyone find a bug submission form yet?

it's in the forums:
http://www.forumplanet.com/QuakeWars/

Mung

06-19-2007, 06:54 AM

I think you can download pacman for free now. That seems to be more up your alley

why? hes right the game is bad. Will be waiting for cod 4.

reyalp

06-19-2007, 07:10 AM

keep in mind

If you’d like to help us finish ETQW, we’d really appreciate your participation. If you want to just play a game for free you may find it a frustrating experience. This Public Beta is not the Demo - it’s not the finished game, but an opportunity to get feedback from a large group of people while testing stability and performance on a wider range of hardware combinations.

(emphasis added)

It is not capped at 30, but in my short experience, it likes to sit at 30 if you get less than 50ish FPS.

Feedback about the game should probably go on the forumplanet forum nail linked to.

shaky

06-19-2007, 07:17 AM

keep in mind

(emphasis added)

It is not capped at 30, but in my short experience, it likes to sit at 30 if you get less than 50ish FPS.

I seem to remember somebody from SD saying that it will do just that. Like the maxfps has different levels, multiples of 30. If you can exceed 60 it will stay locked at 60. If you can't (not sure what the criteria is, would suck if you could get 58) you get kicked back down to the next level, 30 in this case. So if you can cap at 120 but suffer a little bit, it might pop back down to 90 briefly. Of course I could be totally wrong, but I remember it being something close to that.

me666

06-19-2007, 08:11 AM

depends on the timingmethod?

DreAdeDcoRpSE

06-19-2007, 08:41 AM

megatexture, shadowvolumes, normal+specular+displacement? mapping, broken openal ;) , wanna count on? maybe try high befor making any assumptions...

I was on high to start off with, I just dropped it down, so don't go on the offensive before you know all the facts.

The megatexture looked great, not as repeative like in the past games, I actually like it alot. But as for this being the first game to have it I think its better than the multipul images repeating over and over again.

The shadowvolumes looked accurate, but I will have to look into that a little more.

As for openal, sounded good... The volume was well set, the 3D positioning was relative to where I was, It had the doppler effect going on with stuff in the distance relative to the stuff up close... I think that is all takin care of.

But this time around, I did notice something. I want to call it a ghost.If you leave where the GDF go into the sewer, and walk straight out those gates and go straight past the building on the right and you get to the first turn to the right, I was at that intersection, looking towards the sewers, well that direction, and it looked like the strogg plane there, but transparent. I am not sure if those have stealth but I did see the outline and wasn't quite sure what to make of it.

eepberries

06-19-2007, 08:43 AM

I seem to remember somebody from SD saying that it will do just that. Like the maxfps has different levels, multiples of 30. If you can exceed 60 it will stay locked at 60. If you can't (not sure what the criteria is, would suck if you could get 58) you get kicked back down to the next level, 30 in this case. So if you can cap at 120 but suffer a little bit, it might pop back down to 90 briefly. Of course I could be totally wrong, but I remember it being something close to that.
That wouldn't make any sense. Why would they kick you down from something like 50 to 30? That would do nothing but piss people off.

Sainted

06-19-2007, 08:48 AM

That wouldn't make any sense. Why would they kick you down from something like 50 to 30? That would do nothing but piss people off.

Well I guess you can make it auto detect optimal graphics settings and it would lock the FPS at a proper value. Remember, lower but stable FPS makes the game much smoother than higher but unstable FPS.

Iori

06-19-2007, 08:51 AM

i can't wait to finally see it in ultra settings running sweeet as on my new rig :)

the 27" lcd will help too :)

eepberries

06-19-2007, 08:51 AM

Well I guess you can make it auto detect optimal graphics settings and it would lock the FPS at a proper value. Remember, lower but stable FPS makes the game much smoother than higher but unstable FPS.
I would much rather have higher FPS and slightly degraded gameplay than have my FPS locked to 30. I mean really 30 FPS is terrible.

Vir

06-19-2007, 09:05 AM

1. How are the graphics?
2. How is the FPS?
3. Was there any lag during gameplay?
4. Was there any issues of being droped?
5. Any issues with the installation?
6. How was the gameplay?
7. Any server issues?
8. Were the pings low?
9. Was the game running to fast?
10.. Did the Beta live up tp your expections so far?

1. They are what I would expect from a current day fps.
2. Fine
3. I pinged about 70 to most servers and I had to lead
by a noticeable amount if someone wasn't coming right at me. Never saw any hiccups or a connection jack equivalent.
4. Not for myself. The server seems to dump everyone quite often. Either it's a crash or mem leak or the beta is limited.
5. None
6. It was fun. Much more depth of gameplay than BF2. Much faster than BF2. On the demo map the vehicles are somewhat wasted since half the objectives are inside the sewer. Would like to see them on an all outdoors map to see their impact better.
7. Other than the evetual server dump, none.
8. Average pings, need some east coast servers to see an improvement for me.
9. No
10. Somewhat. I think what they have now would be good to a start a closed beta with. It needs a lot more polish imo. The "sporadic" crash that effects ATI users mentioned in the readme plagues me big time. Both before the login and when I try and join a server. Sometimes I go 10 attempts before I make it into the server but once I am there it's solid.

me666

06-19-2007, 09:18 AM

I was on high to start off with, I just dropped it down, so don't go on the offensive before you know all the facts.

The megatexture looked great, not as repeative like in the past games, I actually like it alot. But as for this being the first game to have it I think its better than the multipul images repeating over and over again.

The shadowvolumes looked accurate, but I will have to look into that a little more.

thanks for your insights and pointing this out!

As for openal, sounded good... The volume was well set, the 3D positioning was relative to where I was, It had the doppler effect going on with stuff in the distance relative to the stuff up close... I think that is all takin care of.

it's currently broken and therefore was meant as a joke! HAHAHAHAHA! i know, my jokes ain't that funny lately...so this only concerns peeps with vista!

But this time around, I did notice something. I want to call it a ghost.If you leave where the GDF go into the sewer, and walk straight out those gates and go straight past the building on the right and you get to the first turn to the right, I was at that intersection, looking towards the sewers, well that direction, and it looked like the strogg plane there, but transparent. I am not sure if those have stealth but I did see the outline and wasn't quite sure what to make of it.

could it be that some sleep is badly required?

DreAdeDcoRpSE

06-19-2007, 09:38 AM

could it be that some sleep is badly required?

Na, This is my dinner time... I work nights.

DreAdeDcoRpSE

06-19-2007, 09:42 AM

Sainted

06-19-2007, 09:43 AM

I would much rather have higher FPS and slightly degraded gameplay than have my FPS locked to 30. I mean really 30 FPS is terrible.

So what, your FPS is not locked to 30, you can change it to whatever you want :<

me666

06-19-2007, 11:14 AM

What I wanted to point out was that "ghost ship" thing I say, was moving towards me, I even asked the people on the server if there was anything like it, but nobody responded... As if it was moving towards me, it was still in the distance, as if it was high up. Its hard to explain, I think the pest wold to say a play at a high altitude, but transparent.

i remember in the first rtcw days where on assault sometimes the gate didn't open sidewards, nope...upwards! dude, thats was frigging awesome and everyone was really shocked and it looked kinda sick! lol!

blodtang

06-19-2007, 11:19 AM

What I wanted to point out was that "ghost ship" thing I say, was moving towards me, I even asked the people on the server if there was anything like it, but nobody responded... As if it was moving towards me, it was still in the distance, as if it was high up. Its hard to explain, I think the pest wold to say a play at a high altitude, but transparent.

You might be seeing things, I would suggest an eye test, then perhaps a doctor.

Kamikazee

06-19-2007, 11:40 AM

why? hes right the game is bad. Will be waiting for cod 4.
Now you are just acting silly. If you think the game is bad as well, at least give us some more details of your opinion.

alvin

06-19-2007, 12:11 PM

If you can exceed 60 it will stay locked at 60. If you can't (not sure what the criteria is, would suck if you could get 58) you get kicked back down to the next level, 30 in this case.

What you are describing is V-Sync. There should be an menu option / variable to disable it.

:dance:

GiantTriangle

06-19-2007, 12:18 PM

Well, it sounds good to me.. at the moment i'm to busy being shafted by fp waiting for a key. :dance: :dance: :dance:

Ed_122586

06-19-2007, 12:30 PM

yeah that thing with the FPS usually happens when you have V-sync on and Triple Buffering off. But I haven't played the beta yet so I will have to see. However, with a rig that can score 8675 in 3dmark06 (no OC) I should certainly be able to get better than 30 fps, I should hope.

Flesh

06-19-2007, 12:39 PM

Did anyone try out the bots?

Strogg

06-19-2007, 12:43 PM

Did anyone try out the bots?

Good Question Dude :D I would like to know also!

me666

06-19-2007, 12:44 PM

no host option so no bots for us. tbh, i don't think they will provide bots in the beta on ranked server...

engie^benjy

06-19-2007, 01:05 PM

no host option so no bots for us. tbh, i don't think they will provide bots in the beta on ranked server...

yeah i agree, also from the readme the bots arent finished yet and need a lot more work

:dance:

me666

06-19-2007, 01:14 PM

i would say: not polished ;)

Zarkow

06-19-2007, 01:38 PM

i would say: not polished ;)

I would say: how come a handful of critical posts 10+ post about their glorious views per day?

engrpiman

06-19-2007, 01:59 PM

I played the BETA yesterday and:

1. graphics look good
2. no lag
3. good FPS (maxed out)
4. FUN
5.easy to jump in
6. Better then CS:S , quake 4, doom 3, and Prey Multiplayer
7. speed is about the same as CS:S or a little faster

from what I have played the games is 90+% stable and while i have not played any games, just warm-up it has been fun. And the physics are good to

DreAdeDcoRpSE

06-27-2007, 07:12 PM

You might be seeing things, I would suggest an eye test, then perhaps a doctor.

maybe, but I just had my eye examined 2 weeks ago and everything is good.

GreySquirrel

06-27-2007, 07:32 PM

The graphics look awesome if you change r_megadrawmethod 3 to r_megadrawmethod 0 in the config file. I think they will be adding this as an option in an advanced menu at a later date

wafflesomd

06-27-2007, 07:46 PM

Try 4 years of pro level competative play and tell me I don't know how a game should be...... stupid douche

Sounds like somebody wants a cookie.

Sublim3

06-27-2007, 07:53 PM

Try 4 years of pro level competative play and tell me I don't know how a game should be...... stupid douche
Sounds like somebody wants a cookie.

lol, yeah the funnier thing is Refering to BF series in a sentence about competative pro gaming :cool: :eek:

lol, like knowing anything about the BF series has anything to do at all with how an ET game should be... Matti you fail, no cookie.

off note-
Waffles from pcapex?