ETQW Public Beta, not ETQW Demo

[[SD]BongoBoy]

Hi everyone,
Just a quick note to remind y'all that the Public Beta is just that...a Beta. This isn't the finished game, it's not a promotion for or preview of the finished game, it's an opportunity to help us test what we have. Please do bear this in mind when making definitive statements about what ETQW will end up being or looking like.

As I've said before, if you just want to play part of a game for free, you'll probably find it a frustrating experience. If you want a preview of the finished game, I'm afraid you'll have to wait for the ETQW Demo. In the meantime, if you'd like to help us with testing, we'd appreciate your participation in the Public Beta, and look forward to your feedback.

BB

[ForsakenDragon]

The only way to fully test the game in beta is to act and play it as if it is the full game
You'd be surprised how many exploits/problems can be found when playing for fun in less then 3 minutes that someone who was looking for exploits/problems couldn't find in a few years

[TruB]

yeah, I get the feeling that many test a game and play it like its meant and not like it will be played.

[sponge]

The only way to fully test the game in beta is to act and play it as if it is the full game
You'd be surprised how many exploits/problems can be found when playing for fun in less then 3 minutes that someone who was looking for exploits/problems couldn't find in a few years

Indeed, but that's not what BongoBoy was aiming for I think. For example, playing the game, yelling "ZOMG ITS LAGGY AND SLOW, THIS GAME SUCKS" and deleting it forever and ever wouldn't be fair as this isn't representative of the retail game. Plus, it's of no help to SD to improve it.

Basically, he's saying don't judge it as a demo, as the demo has yet to come. If the demo is in bad shape, then by all means.

[ForsakenDragon]

Indeed, but that's not what BongoBoy was aiming for I think. For example, playing the game, yelling "ZOMG ITS LAGGY AND SLOW, THIS GAME SUCKS" and deleting it forever and ever wouldn't be fair as this isn't representative of the retail game. Plus, it's of no help to SD to improve it.

Basically, he's saying don't judge it as a demo, as the demo has yet to come. If the demo is in bad shape, then by all means.

I know.. I was just adding that even though you shouldn't whine/cry/etc. about it you should have fun and play it just like you would a full game. If you feel forced to "look for" bugs you may not find the bugs that are easily overlooked unless you interact accidentally with them while having fun

[kreative]

Indeed, but that's not what BongoBoy was aiming for I think. For example, playing the game, yelling "ZOMG ITS LAGGY AND SLOW, THIS GAME SUCKS" and deleting it forever and ever wouldn't be fair as this isn't representative of the retail game. Plus, it's of no help to SD to improve it.

Basically, he's saying don't judge it as a demo, as the demo has yet to come. If the demo is in bad shape, then by all means.

Thats a shame people have taken up beta slots with that attitude, I'd of given my right arm to test.

[Viperkhan]

Yeah. The game isn't finished. Need to keep that in mind.

[farfigneugan]

Thats a shame people have taken up beta slots with that attitude, I'd of given my right arm to test.

Are there no slots left?

[^Garf*uk*]

where is the beta on fp? all i c is the demo :(
anyone got a link?

[NoControl]

Are there no slots left?

Considering it hasn't really even started yet, there is about +59k keys left. And there is no beta at FP yet, just for those with new annual subs. Actual beta starts tomorrow or thursday.

[^Garf*uk*]

Considering it hasn't really even started yet, there is about +59k keys left. And there is no beta at FP yet, just for those with new annual subs. Actual beta starts tomorrow or thursday.

thanks m8 :)

found this

http://support.fileplanet.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=3232&task=knowledge&questionID=1549

[|GW|R-E-D-R-U-M]

BongoBoy;44526']Hi everyone,
Just a quick note to remind y'all that the Public Beta is just that...a Beta. This isn't the finished game, it's not a promotion for or preview of the finished game, it's an opportunity to help us test what we have. Please do bear this in mind when making definitive statements about what ETQW will end up being or looking like.

As I've said before, if you just want to play part of a game for free, you'll probably find it a frustrating experience. If you want a preview of the finished game, I'm afraid you'll have to wait for the ETQW Demo. In the meantime, if you'd like to help us with testing, we'd appreciate your participation in the Public Beta, and look forward to your feedback.

BB

Send this to G4 because they are palying it like ...hey everyone get ready to play ETQW the betas gettin' released, nothing about what you said.

[kamm]

Considering it hasn't really even started yet, there is about +59k keys left. And there is no beta at FP yet, just for those with new annual subs. Actual beta starts tomorrow or thursday.

So in other words whatever key I have listed as Enemy Territory: Quake Wars Demo [Reserved] under My Account over at FP, it's not for this beta, right? :(

[Marv]

Played it today, what is it with ID and vsync? Is this problem going to be sorted in the final version? By the way its looking brilliant, a long way to go smoothness wise but the game play is top.. Well worth the wait, just sort the frame rate out cause it jumps all over the place even on a high end system like mine.

Tried all the cvar setting and i'm still having problems with frame rate, please tell me that the frame rate isn't going to be like this in the final version? Even the frame rate that goes really high seems to look very low which is weird.

[urwathrtz]

Hey what's the password for the Fileplanet ET:QW Beta test forums.
(cue smart @$$ remarks...and GO!)

[Badmagic]

Maybe I am missing something but how do I test this free public beta exactly?

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3806/untitled1wh8.jpg

Eh, only two options and both are pay to play with no ignore or skip options, doesn’t look to public to me, I just hope to god the subscribers are of a higher standard than usual, I am getting tired of buggy messes getting released because all people seem to do in beta’s these days is play with little to no feedback about the experience offering no help in fixing any potential issues.

[HAVOK#24]

its open to everybody on Friday.

[LionQ]

yeah, I get the feeling that many test a game and play it like its meant and not like it will be played.That's EA Games-style; should be different here. :p

[rquasar]

Well I have noticed something about a couple of the weapons....The Hyper Blaster seems to be alot stronger than the GDF's counterpart weapons. Seems easier to kill with. The Rocket Launcher seems a bit weak. I was shooting the walkers, the deployable guns over & over with what seemed to be little or no damage. Does the RL only kill/destroy a specific object?

[Kay-P]

Uhm, just a quick noobie question:
Do i have to sign anything to be able to part in the public beta? (i am not a registered fileplanet user).
If so, what is it?

[KrachShotz]

I tried to sign up today at fileplanet and it says my hardware isn't compatible for the beta. lol! dual FX-74, hd2900xt, 4 gigs of ram and 64 bit Vista NOT compatible are you serious? lol!

[SA|Sleep-4sg]

call me a chakken noob if you want but im just wondering where you can get the beta like kay said above ^^^

soo if you could help me i would led you $23452345233452345234523!!!!!!!!!
(not really)

[Brinkman]

nice post.. now fix the netcode :P

[rquasar]

I think the reason Y FP say that your computer isnt good enough. Is because at this moment...here is the magic word......PAID...... subscribers are first in line. Unpaid might have to wait 3 days till Saturdayb to get their keys.

[claud]

BongoBoy;44526']Hi everyone,
Just a quick note to remind y'all that the Public Beta is just that...a Beta. This isn't the finished game, it's not a promotion for or preview of the finished game, it's an opportunity to help us test what we have. Please do bear this in mind when making definitive statements about what ETQW will end up being or looking like.


BB

and yet 30k keys are reserved 4 ppl who paid good money.... paid good money for a public beta which is just that...a beta...

so i fail to see the logic here if the beta doest come even close to the demo or the final product why the heck do ppl have to pay 4 it???

if any u should pay ppl 4 playing the beta and reporting bugs and not vise versa....

so u release a beta with your own admission that is just a beta and make keys and special offers and ask ppl to pay money 4 it.... that a bit erm...WRONG!

i mean whats the point? u pay 4 a key in the beta and yet the demo which is much better is free!!! where is the logic??

i am aware that u can get a key for free , but the whole idea is wrong ,ALL the keys should have been free end of discussion.

flame all u want , im sorry i cant understand why they made this decision.

[spudz]

Do we have a list of known bugs in like bugzilla or something already so I can view them and test game see if I find anything new? Sorry I do some QA testing for living so I want to make sure when I reply back I don't want to bug something that has already been bugged?

Thank you,

[sponge]

I wouldn't worry about that, just post all out, the bigger the bug, the better.

[|WCK|MurderFace]

paid good money? i've never paid for fileplanet until now. 8 bucks for the no ad thing - 1 month.

well worth it to beta test this game.. perhaps the dev's will consider paid betas in the future? pre-order was also 10 bucks at worst buy.

the retail game will be well worth waiting for!

[drafake]

I can't wait for free beta key.I CAN'T WAIT!

[Sin316]

The only way to fully test the game in beta is to act and play it as if it is the full game
You'd be surprised how many exploits/problems can be found when playing for fun in less then 3 minutes that someone who was looking for exploits/problems couldn't find in a few years



wrong.

Only reason to "play as it was a full version" is for balancing. You don't need to play the game "like it was the full game and you payed for it and act as your score actually matters" , do find bugs , glitches , exploites and what not. You don't have to be first in scoreboard, to figure out, that if you do x , y happens. You don't have to be the highest ranked in ladder/general scoreboard, to figure out, that if you do x again, y still happens.


Most people are simply inapt to test betas, seriously. They don't care about the beta, but play like their scores etc. matters. Or those who "complain" about things, instead of making a constructive list , of what they have encountered, and consider "it may haven't been adjusted yet" , or that they may accidently discovered a bug or glitch in the engine/game.

Also hindering the Beta, are the fanboys, who , no matter what the issue/problem, "try" to "protect" the game from any complaints and whatever from the above group. NONE of the beta testers should EVER defend or offend the game they are testing. All it does, is hinder the Beta progress, and makes people discuss stupid, irrelevant topics, often leading to active insults and what not. IF SOMEONE HAS A PROBLEM WITH SOMETHING, DON'T FLAME HIM. Try to either help to resolve his Problem (if it is problem) , or ask for more information, and try to figure out, if it is a bug/glitch/exploit, or maybe just a balance issue, and report it accordingly.


YOU DON'T HELP ANYONE, IF YOU FLAME SOMEONE.

No matter, if the guy is offending the game, or complaining , or whatever. And if he found a bug, it won't go away, because you called him names, or told him to go away, or whatever. If the matter of a issue is a bug/glitch/exploit/unbalance or not, it has to be reported to SD, they can then decide, what to do with it.

[Richy]

Sin your posts make no sense... the best way to find bugs/glitches that will occur when playing the game will be playing it as the game no?

Right you might find a bug that if you drive the tank into a tree at the back of the map, that you fall throught he floor and can then drive around.

But... does that effect the gameplay?

It depends on what you are looking for getting out of it... I agree if people give a genuine problem then yes that should be explored.

BUT if someone says... OMGOSH THIS ISNT AS GOOD AS I EXPECTED, OMGOSH THIS ISNT <INSERT GAME HERE>, OMGOSH THIS SUCKS.

That helps no one, also as stated this isn't the forum for postings bugs/issues... that should go on the forumplanet forums.

[Sin316]

Sin your posts make no sense... the best way to find bugs/glitches that will occur when playing the game will be playing it as the game no?

Right you might find a bug that if you drive the tank into a tree at the back of the map, that you fall throught he floor and can then drive around.

But... does that effect the gameplay?

It depends on what you are looking for getting out of it... I agree if people give a genuine problem then yes that should be explored.

BUT if someone says... OMGOSH THIS ISNT AS GOOD AS I EXPECTED, OMGOSH THIS ISNT <INSERT GAME HERE>, OMGOSH THIS SUCKS.

That helps no one, also as stated this isn't the forum for postings bugs/issues... that should go on the forumplanet forums.


thanks for proving my point ....

[Spawne32]

overall the game seems pretty well constructed, i haven't really seen any major bugs, only a few things in game that i wasn't even sure were bugs.

[gamer007]

This thread reminds me of the BF2142 beta about a year ago. I was in the beginning stages of the subscribers only beta (I won a key, I would never pay for FP). I was expecting a lot of complaining on the forums, but I saw everyone was actually mature, helping the devs and having fun at the same time. So obviously I had a good time playing and and reporting problems.

Thats when the actual open beta started, and a surge of people came in. Lots of complainers on the beta forums, servers were constantly crashing. I couldn't even play anymore. It's hard enough to post problems when you have a bunch of threads that are not constructed properly and just for spam.

I hope it won't be the same here. :)

[RedRideR]

well the way I see this is that fileplanet is making the money. I've had my game prepaid since April. They should have given the keys to the people who have spent the $$ on the game not just subsribers to file planet. So I will just wait for the Beta to come out.

[DiecastV]

Ok here what I see as fit to what I see that needs fixed ,
1. When you are laying on the ground it tends to be realy jurky feel like lag but when I stand up im fine
2. Zooming as Sniper I see squars around players and feild opps same thing.
3. I have a game mouse MX518 LG mouse , I use press to talk on my teamspeak and I found that it changes seets in Vehicles and zooming as well , so I fixed it to my voice auto so I dont change seets , lot of player are asking me how to change seets when they dont have more buttons then I do I have 8 button mouse. So I dont know what buttons to use to change them cause I dont see that in the controls setting is there some fix on that?
4. the server tends to shut down when next map goes into the next round , and some time not
5. the spawn takes to long to spawn I think the time thing is bad it take way to long , I here guys on my teamspeak say why does it take so long I sead I dont know its starting to be a real pain in the butt but it would be nice to just auto spawn instead of time spawn , thats my .02 cents.
6. when I went to a UK server it was ok no lag in the game at all it a sweet game .

[Badmagic]

I have no idea how it happened but I got one of the keys, just waiting for my download to get corrupted or freeze at 99% now so I thought I should post a heads up in the remote off chance it was not widely known.

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[Brinkman]

i post on other forums adn you'll be amazed about how many people think this is a demo or a final build of the game..

they are so used to battlefield betas that end up being the final build

[Sim]

BongoBoy;44526']Hi everyone,
Just a quick note to remind y'all that the Public Beta is just that...a Beta. This isn't the finished game, it's not a promotion for or preview of the finished game, it's an opportunity to help us test what we have. Please do bear this in mind when making definitive statements about what ETQW will end up being or looking like.

As I've said before, if you just want to play part of a game for free, you'll probably find it a frustrating experience. If you want a preview of the finished game, I'm afraid you'll have to wait for the ETQW Demo. In the meantime, if you'd like to help us with testing, we'd appreciate your participation in the Public Beta, and look forward to your feedback.


BB

I think more people would play it longer to help you test it out if we played a map that was more balanced and lasted longer.
The way it is now GDF have it way too easy, its hard to keep playing sewers when its such a one sided map.
Maybe its cause everyones new to the game but right now the sewers map seems one sided.

[-mdg-]

6 (six) years for that ? it's a joke ... vehicules are useless, artillery is nice but uneffective, strogg snipers gun is BS ... give that bs to x360 kids, not to us, pc users ... TY ... yeah it's a beta, i know, but you have work to do, so, don't work on a trashy beta ... 'rendez vous' in 10 years ...

[paZifist]

good work up guys. I am Software qualitymanager and i must say if our guys would make such a job in a beta i would kiss their feed ;) Really small things in the game. Some crashes and a little balancing should do the jobs. Great work! 2 Maps would have been nice to test GDF as defensive and Strogg as offensive force that could reveal some different probs with balancing i think.

And i just wanted to thank you for making an acarde Battlefield. Thats all i waited for !!!! <3 Splashdamage and id keep it up!

[PeaceKeeper]

and yet 30k keys are reserved 4 ppl who paid good money.... paid good money for a public beta which is just that...a beta...

so i fail to see the logic here if the beta doest come even close to the demo or the final product why the heck do ppl have to pay 4 it???

if any u should pay ppl 4 playing the beta and reporting bugs and not vise versa....

so u release a beta with your own admission that is just a beta and make keys and special offers and ask ppl to pay money 4 it.... that a bit erm...WRONG!

i mean whats the point? u pay 4 a key in the beta and yet the demo which is much better is free!!! where is the logic??

i am aware that u can get a key for free , but the whole idea is wrong ,ALL the keys should have been free end of discussion.

flame all u want , im sorry i cant understand why they made this decision.

I 'pay' for fileplanet. I didn't pay for this beta, but for everything else I get through fileplanet. If you never use fileplanet, and your only reason to 'pay' for it is this beta, then it must be worth it to you.

Now, for the 'why' it would cost money. By File Planet hosting the client, thats tons of bandwidth Splash Damage doesn't have to pay for. Fileplanet recoups with their subscription money. So both sides benefit.

Running a beta costs money, so if there are ways to recoup that cost, so be it. You don't have to be in beta, it's not a 'requirement'.

[LlamaMan]

I am realy enjoying this beta. I played W:ET so i had a good idea what to expect but it is plenty diffrent to make it feel like a hole new game. For some constructive commenting I would say that the Strogg Medic class could use some tweeking on the positive side. Spawn points are awesome but i would like to see more of them healing me before the spawn. (I understand it is the player that desides that but maybe give more of an incentive like XP or make spawn points abit harder to make.)

[Fade2Black_Qubenet]

Thats a shame people have taken up beta slots with that attitude, I'd of given my right arm to test.

Yes.
I know the feeling.

Rats gnawing at your stomach.


The whole point of beta-testing is not to play the same character the same way, its to try new things. And I'd really love to have a key (preordered though); but in my opinion betas are there to see if you can poke a hand through some kind of texture; get glitches when using something; walk on the sky; testing different loadout of weapons at difference stances (e.g., prone); have a range of graphics cards etc; character fonts; in-game bugs.. yes basically ingame debugging and reporting bugs. Does QuakeWars have it's own "submit bug report" as part of the beta program? If so, can it? Submit Bug-Demo. Submit-Bug-Screenshot. F11 F12. Saved to developer file and then a utility to upload.

Does your uniform work as it is meant to. Do hitboxes work...

It shouldnt be "lets bag a server and prevent anyone else beta-testing the game".

[Annoyed by the audacity and quite frankley elitism of some players who would kick from servers in order to get a 'clan game'. Tough. Public beta is what it says. Think yourselves lucky. Theres' people out there without a game key. ]

Wonder if QW will have something similar to AA where those that tk a lot find it harder to enter some servers.

[Seph64]

God I sure hope not. Accidental TKs happen all the time. It would suck for me to only gain access to certain servers just because of it.

[solots]

BongoBoy;44526']Hi everyone,
Just a quick note to remind y'all that the Public Beta is just that...a Beta. This isn't the finished game, it's not a promotion for or preview of the finished game, it's an opportunity to help us test what we have. Please do bear this in mind when making definitive statements about what ETQW will end up being or looking like.

As I've said before, if you just want to play part of a game for free, you'll probably find it a frustrating experience. If you want a preview of the finished game, I'm afraid you'll have to wait for the ETQW Demo. In the meantime, if you'd like to help us with testing, we'd appreciate your participation in the Public Beta, and look forward to your feedback.

BB

nice but there some of us ho can't log in enny more the password is wrong,and they heb a beta key,wy is that

[Glavin]

nice but there some of us ho can't log in enny more the password is wrong,and they heb a beta key,wy is that

what?

-The Glavin

[Adware]

BongoBoy;44526']Hi everyone,
Just a quick note to remind y'all that the Public Beta is just that...a Beta. This isn't the finished game, it's not a promotion for or preview of the finished game, it's an opportunity to help us test what we have. Please do bear this in mind when making definitive statements about what ETQW will end up being or looking like.

As I've said before, if you just want to play part of a game for free, you'll probably find it a frustrating experience. If you want a preview of the finished game, I'm afraid you'll have to wait for the ETQW Demo. In the meantime, if you'd like to help us with testing, we'd appreciate your participation in the Public Beta, and look forward to your feedback.

BB

Yes CongoBoy, I would like to test the adware pls. Just give us some ads to chew and we'll see how we like them. I'm trying very hard to like this game and I guess that if we take things one of a time we can work them out. So can you guys post some screens with the final ads?

[Ganymede]

BongoBoy;44526']Hi everyone,
Just a quick note to remind y'all that the Public Beta is just that...a Beta. This isn't the finished game, it's not a promotion for or preview of the finished game, it's an opportunity to help us test what we have. Please do bear this in mind when making definitive statements about what ETQW will end up being or looking like.

As I've said before, if you just want to play part of a game for free, you'll probably find it a frustrating experience. If you want a preview of the finished game, I'm afraid you'll have to wait for the ETQW Demo. In the meantime, if you'd like to help us with testing, we'd appreciate your participation in the Public Beta, and look forward to your feedback.

BB

while I agree with this post and thats ideal for a beta and a great attitude to have, my estimate from past beta experience would be 70-80% of the player base plays the game just to play for free while the other 20-30% do an extraordinary job trying to help develop the game. I wish some sort of database existed to calculate those numbers accurately.

[MetalKnight]

hi , i want to play at ETQW beta test, but i think that i have to wait for long ,long time the next distribution of free accounts...

[Glavin]

hi , i want to play at ETQW beta test, but i think that i have to wait for long ,long time the next distribution of free accounts...

try forever...

-The Glavin

[Zing Freelancer]

Well, this is beta 2, closed beta, open beta 1 for FP guys and now open beta 2... This is like, hoooly shit guys, wtf is going on? I mean like, seriusly, you are not half way finish and THIS CURENT BETA, shoud MAYBE be the first one. People are building opinion on game as they play and my are very bad. I even expirienced a crash before I even joined my first online game when I was trying tweaking with Filter settings and gameplay generaly laks the balance and smooth. I dont know guys, seem to me like big disapointment and I've been dieing to see this game in stores, but now I just hope it gets improved or at least delayed and improved. I'll be posting my opinion here on forums but dont expect it to be too pretty...

[TheHeartSmasher]

Beta 2 looks much nicer then Beta 1 it seems the graphics have been turned up :) and the gameplay is much smoother.