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Blucid
06-20-2007, 06:34 AM
Game Blows
I know its the beta, I know I should wait for full. But honestly to tell you the truth Vehicles and Quake 4 do not mix. Gameplay is WAY too fast, so much crap happening left and right you cant fight for more then 30 sec without getting hit with something. Weapon Sounds are the worst freaking sound effects that I have ever heard. Hit detection / netcode is shit, then again im not surprised there. Its an ID Engine based game. So far so shitty.
SD your Game Blows. So far.
Q4 - Shit
QW - Shitter
fungry
06-20-2007, 06:37 AM
your comment doesn't help at all to tell you the truth. you contradict yourself.
Mordenkainen
06-20-2007, 06:39 AM
Game Blows
I know its the beta, I know I should wait for full. But honestly to tell you the truth Vehicles and Quake 4 do not mix. Gameplay is WAY too fast, so much crap happening left and right you cant fight for more then 30 sec without getting hit with something. Weapon Sounds are the worst freaking sound effects that I have ever heard. Hit detection / netcode is shit, then again im not surprised there. Its an ID Engine based game. So far so shitty.
SD your Game Blows. So far.
Q4 - Shit
QW - Shitter
May I have your beta key then? I'd like to actually test the game and provide feedback to the developers on the appropriate channel (FP beta forum). Thanks in advance.
me666
06-20-2007, 06:42 AM
so i'll save you from the pain this game gives you, just pm me your betakey and you are free :cool:
...I'd like to actually test the game and provide feedback to the developers on the appropriate channel (FP beta forum).
he lies... ;)
He must be from BF where you can go 20 minutes before reaching combat if you play your cards right.
fungry
06-20-2007, 06:48 AM
so i'll save you from the pain this game gives you, just pm me your betakey and you are free :cool:
he lies... ;)
pm me your beta key. he can't save you from the pain because the pain now exists within you.
Landis
06-20-2007, 07:00 AM
I agree with Blucid, and let him voice his opinion.
And I don't see much of a difference in your criticisms.
you cant fight for more then 30 sec without getting hit with something.
He must be from BF where you can go 20 minutes before reaching combat if you play your cards right.
ForsakenDragon
06-20-2007, 07:03 AM
pm me your beta key. he can't save you from the pain because the pain now exists within you.
i want the key
pm me the key or i'll kill the danceing Banana
o==]>>>>>>>:dance:
Brinkman
06-20-2007, 07:05 AM
netcode seriously needs some work..b ut im scared that this is the best it's gonna get
me666
06-20-2007, 07:06 AM
pm me your beta key. he can't save you from the pain because the pain now exists within you.
so true ;)
I agree with Blucid, and let him voice his opinion.
And I don't see much of a difference in your criticisms.
I would be nicer if he actually gave the game a chance and gave constructive criticism instead of just saying that it sucks cuz it's too fast. I gave BF2 2 weeks of my time before I decided that I would never like it. A couple of hours of gameplay isn't long enough to judge a game. Some games once you get used to the gameplay tend to grow on you and after a while you love it. I hated CSS first few times I played it, but after a while I started to enjoy the game. Not as much as Wolf:ET, but I still play it every once in a while.
fungry
06-20-2007, 07:11 AM
haha. gah... yea its true how some games grow on you.
Spuddy
06-20-2007, 07:12 AM
Nice to see another key wasted... :rolleyes:
The General
06-20-2007, 07:12 AM
Game Blows
Then don't play it. :rolleyes:
How could you not like Quake 4?? :eek:
J3ST3R
06-20-2007, 07:12 AM
Game ROCKS!!!
I know its the beta, and I can't wait for full. But honestly to tell you the truth Vehicles and Quake 4 mix quite well. Gameplay is like none other, so much awesome stuff happening left and right you can't decide where to fight. Weapon Sounds are the best freaking sound effects that I have ever heard. Hit detection / netcode is pretty smooth, then again im happy. Its an ID Engine based game. So far so good! :cool:
SD your Game is looking good. So far.
Q4 - Awesome
QW - Even better
Fixed. :oppressor:
fungry
06-20-2007, 07:13 AM
hahaha j3st3r.. ;)
me666
06-20-2007, 07:25 AM
Nice to see another key wasted... :rolleyes:
ehm...not really ;)
HaZe303
06-20-2007, 07:28 AM
Ive actually never played tha game, and i agree with OP. The game really seems to blow, and hard at it. As OP, I think the weapon sounds are the worst ive ever heard. Sounds like some Quake1 rip-off. Cīmon SD, its 2007, not 97. And again, as OP said, the games seems way to fast. I know you SD guys are clanners, but hey if you want to make this game commersially succesful, you need to think more of the gen public too. If you make it "clan only", you wont sell shit. Im sorry to say it(coming from a man that havent tried it yet), but this game officially sux(even if its only BETA). Now i can really understand why they held it back for a year in development. I dont understand it, the E3 stuff from last year looked great. What has happened in this year??? Im so dissapointed, and Im pretty sure I wont be changing my mind after testing it.
I had bad feelings about this game for a long time, these 2 days with all videoīs, and forum postīs have confirmed my fears. This game is BF2 on speed, with crappy Q4 engine....
EDIT: Im really sorry to say it because I had really BIG hopes for this game. Now I have to wait LONG time til something else pops up!!!!? :(
Edit2: Maybe SD needs 2-3 real games before they have enough experiance to make a great game?? They still seem a bit underground, if you know what i mean??
fungry
06-20-2007, 07:37 AM
you are making this judgement from a subjective point. and you never played the game.....
Sainted
06-20-2007, 07:37 AM
Ive actually never played tha game, and i agree with OP. The game really seems to blow, and hard at it. As OP, I think the weapon sounds are the worst ive ever heard. Sounds like some Quake1 rip-off. Cīmon SD, its 2007, not 97. And again, as OP said, the games seems way to fast. I know you SD guys are clanners, but hey if you want to make this game commersially succesful, you need to think more of the gen public too. If you make it "clan only", you wont sell shit. Im sorry to say it(coming from a man that havent tried it yet), but this game officially sux(even if its only BETA). Now i can really understand why they held it back for a year in development. I dont understand it, the E3 stuff from last year looked great. What has happened in this year??? Im so dissapointed, and Im pretty sure I wont be changing my mind after testing it.
I had bad feelings about this game for a long time, these 2 days with all videoīs, and forum postīs have confirmed my fears. This game is BF2 on speed, with crappy Q4 engine....
EDIT: Im really sorry to say it because I had really BIG hopes for this game. Now I have to wait LONG time til something else pops up!!!!? :(
Seeing you have never played this game I would stop posting, thanks. If its way to fast for your taste, you are a noob, get out of here! If you dont like the sounds, I guess thats no problem.. I wouldnt decide not to buy a game because the weaponsounds werent as awesome as you wanted it to be. Its a future game and they need to come up with totally new sounds which might be quite a challenge.
me666
06-20-2007, 07:38 AM
Ive actually never played tha game...
yaw...sometimes poeple prefer to get upset by others made conclusions. i would tip on my own mind, saves some seriously headaches...
...If its way to fast for your taste, you are a noob, get out of here!..
let's not pretend, the noob actually seems to be you...go mature...
fungry
06-20-2007, 07:39 AM
yaw...sometimes poeple prefer to get upset by others made conclusions. i would tip on my own mind, saves some seriously headaches...
haha indeeed so.
Obviously idiot. It has nothing to do with Quake exept having stroggs in it, well and engine. W:ET is what you should have looked at.
I am very sceptic about this game especially because of engine and netcode (compared to ET), even movement concerns me, I even don't want this game to be released, because it will take away attention from ET, but you, please, go back to your BF cave and enjoy your fantastic game.
Hit detection / netcode is shit, then again im not surprised there. Its an ID Engine based game. So far so shitty.
You really know what you are talking about. Q4 engine indeed is pretty shitty, and I haven't played QW to comment if there is any improvement. But as for ET which uses Quake3 ID engine and has BEST netcode ever in any multiplayer game, your retarded statement, takes your retardness to unseen before levels.
Ender-Wiggin.DA.
06-20-2007, 08:51 AM
netcode seriously needs some work..b ut im scared that this is the best it's gonna get
A little bird told me they are planning on improving the netcode. It's not done yet!
J3ST3R
06-20-2007, 08:59 AM
I laugh at all the bickering and see it as keys wasted.
Its a BETA!!! Not a finished product. Get a grip people. :infiltrator:
doson
06-20-2007, 09:03 AM
[...] Gameplay is WAY too fast, so much crap happening left and right you cant fight for more then 30 sec without getting hit with something. [...]
lol, welcome to ENEMY TERRITORY baby
Drake Eldred
06-20-2007, 09:20 AM
Why is everyone bitching about netcode hardware problems and gameplay SD stated that the open beta is not a demo get over it i don't have a beta key and my pc isn'T good but if a demo ever comes i'll try it and if anyone else ever play W:ET should know that the game was fast paced and the people say that this game sucks and only played 6 hours or abit more
Sainted
06-20-2007, 09:42 AM
let's not pretend, the noob actually seems to be you...go mature...
Yes ofcourse, someone who is unable to hit a fast moving target is a much better player than someone who can.
Bobble
06-20-2007, 10:48 AM
I would find it very amusing that so many people on here seem to be completely clueless about what a BETA actually is. The reason I don't find it funny is because I am not a FP subscriber, therefore I can't yet play the game and there are all these people who appear to be wasting their privilege :(
fungry
06-20-2007, 10:49 AM
yea. still waiting till that day for my beta key. sigh... let alone if i'll be able to get one -0-
RoboDuck
06-20-2007, 10:55 AM
gimme you key b1tch ^^
meh lol bad feedback here-.-
VLM(ike)
06-20-2007, 10:56 AM
Hehe all this whining on the first day, he even can't play the game right. Theres a learning curve needed.
In the videos the game=gameplay looks good :infiltrator: .
Loffy
06-20-2007, 10:56 AM
So many arguments are ad gaminem.
HaZe303
06-20-2007, 11:02 AM
Bobble, I know exactly what a BETA is. But I have never seen a game transform from a lousy BETA to a beautiful great retail game. Im not talking about bugs and balance issues. Im talking about the whole game, and its SD/IDīs own fault if people get dissapointed in this game. They used the wrong kind of HYPE to lure in people. Those first trailers from E305, and those Super HD screens they released last year. Im no graphics junkie, but the game doesnt even come close those so called screenies, even if it is only a BETA.
I must admit, as I said in my last post I havent played the game yet. And I must admit im no fan of W:ET. But I thought this game, even if its a so called successors for W:ET, that this game would be more "Public" available. But it doesnt seem to be. And I really doubt they will change this for full retail version. This game is the ultimate CLAN game, and thats how SD wants it to be. And Im telling them its a BAD IDEA if they want to earn some money in this whole thing. Or maybe thats why they have the ADīs in the game, some kind of backup?? :D
Ps. Im not trying to irritate you all SD fanboys, W:ET gamers, im just scared this game I have waited for a long time isnt going to be the game I dreamt of!? I want some new MP game, but something that isnt so Bunny-Hoppisch?? :)
EDIT:
If its way to fast for your taste, you are a noob, get out of here! If you dont like the sounds, I guess thats no problem.. I wouldnt decide not to buy a game because the weaponsounds werent as awesome as you wanted it to be. Its a future game and they need to come up with totally new sounds which might be quite a challenge.
Sounds are important to me, yes you are right about that. They are however no dealbreaker. But I doubt the sounds are so crappy because they have tried to find some futuristic sounds as you suggest. It feels more like they havent even done their own sounds. The gun sounds, specially GDF gun sounds, sound exactly like they have stolen them from Quake4. And No, I didnt like the gun sounds in Quake 4 either. Thats why they should make their own sounds, heavier sounds that dont make the guns sound like soft air gun or some paintball gun?? But what ever, they wont change these things for me. Seems like SD are happy with them. But I truely hope im wrong about all of this, I would love it if this game would rule.... ....But I doubt it!!!
taken
06-20-2007, 11:48 AM
Some like muffins, some like donuts. :) Have a nice day.
reyalp
06-20-2007, 11:53 AM
Some like muffins, some like donuts. :) Have a nice day.
Pie is the One True Pastry!
Big_RIch
06-20-2007, 12:26 PM
I would find it very amusing that so many people on here seem to be completely clueless about what a BETA actually is. The reason I don't find it funny is because I am not a FP subscriber, therefore I can't yet play the game and there are all these people who appear to be wasting their privilege :(
Umm, we PAYED MONEY FOR OUR privilege. So we can do with it as we please. And if someone thinks the game is crap then let them think it and move on. I think the game is ok, nothing more. It certainly isn't anything groundbreaking. But fun non the less.
murka10
06-20-2007, 12:34 PM
seems like only a few peps know what to do with a beta, 50% play it, 30% give feedback on some things, 10% give reviews and 10% whyne that its not BF.
ImoldGreggg!
06-20-2007, 12:46 PM
I would find it very amusing that so many people on here seem to be completely clueless about what a BETA actually is. The reason I don't find it funny is because I am not a FP subscriber, therefore I can't yet play the game and there are all these people who appear to be wasting their privilege :(
I dont come from a BF or ET background. I play a lot of HL2, so to be honest im used to fast play, I dont really understand the gripes. Im really glad I have the privilidge (even though i paid for it) to play it.
Some people will love it, some wont. Some will bitch about it on forums :)
fungry
06-20-2007, 12:52 PM
lol bunny hopping...... goodie! o_O...
renrut
06-20-2007, 12:54 PM
Game Blows
I know its the beta, I know I should wait for full. But honestly to tell you the truth Vehicles and Quake 4 do not mix. Gameplay is WAY too fast, so much crap happening left and right you cant fight for more then 30 sec without getting hit with something. Weapon Sounds are the worst freaking sound effects that I have ever heard. Hit detection / netcode is shit, then again im not surprised there. Its an ID Engine based game. So far so shitty.
I laughed when you said the gameplay is too fast, thats hilarious. Are you a woman or something? "Oooh slow down let me get me bearings please! I can't handle all this fast paced action.".
Instead of flaming saying the games blows, provide useful feedback to the devs. This is what a beta is for, but you people don't seem to understand.
You are suppose to test the game and report bugs and suggest ways to improve the game, not moan and groan at every slight problem.
Venom[iTa]
06-20-2007, 12:56 PM
i dont hae to play the beta version, but the gamply is fast like quake series or simlar to bf series or aa middleway.
sorry for my bad eng:oppressor:
edit: i have played rtc:et and i like it but in same times are veri similar to qake game mechaninc.
ImoldGreggg!
06-20-2007, 01:36 PM
SD your Game Blows. So far.
Q4 - Shit
QW - Shitter
Useful beta feedback well done, im sure people without licience keys are glad to hear your comments
Nick_Stone
06-20-2007, 01:53 PM
From playing the BETA for nearly 2 days now, it's pretty free of any major bugs from what i have seen. At the moment tho there is no real beta testing as such.
The unlimited sprint and bunny hopping could do with sorting out, and the speed is ok, its just the previous things that ruins any inf fighting, IMO.
I'm waiting till a few friends have got some keys and then see what the team play using TS is like.
So far its not the game i was hoping it to be.
TrickmA
06-20-2007, 01:59 PM
Then don't play it. :rolleyes:
How could you not like Quake 4?? :eek:
His obviously one of those people that hates everything on the face of the earth, more reason to ignore :D
me666
06-20-2007, 03:35 PM
Yes ofcourse, someone who is unable to hit a fast moving target is a much better player than someone who can.
your argument failed badly, thats why you are a noob...go figure!
Sainted
06-20-2007, 03:44 PM
your argument failed badly, thats why you are a noob...go figure!
Cant you just crawl back under the rock you came from? If you don't have anything better to do than calling people noob on forums I feel pretty pitiful for you
Houdini
06-20-2007, 03:48 PM
I was/still am afraid that the speed of the game will not mix well with the vehicles..
having played too many hours of ET to count, I thought to myself "they can't possibly put vehicles into this game without slowing it down".
I'd prefer a game slightly faster than the BF series..but not so fast that objective based gaming with classes and vehicles seems to end up being a race around the map without time for the tactical element.
What ever happened to the thinking mans shooter with fast elements? (aka: Tribes1).. do devs think we are too stupid to appreciate a healthy mix?
I hope when I log in and play that i see a good balance between speed and action, and not a Quake twitch fury of ass over elbows and no time for a proper game-playing experience.
ps: Quake 2/3/4 blew.. and that whole franchise sucked after Quake 1 3Wave/Thunderwalker CTF.
Kamikazee
06-20-2007, 03:49 PM
Pie is the One True Pastry!This thread needs more Quiche though!
at least he paid $40 to fileplanet :)
impagliazzo
06-20-2007, 05:11 PM
now i know why SD team don't check these forums
Dagon
06-20-2007, 08:19 PM
Game Blows
I know its the beta, I know I should wait for full. But honestly to tell you the truth Vehicles and Quake 4 do not mix. Gameplay is WAY too fast, so much crap happening left and right you cant fight for more then 30 sec without getting hit with something. Weapon Sounds are the worst freaking sound effects that I have ever heard. Hit detection / netcode is shit, then again im not surprised there. Its an ID Engine based game. So far so shitty.
SD your Game Blows. So far.
Q4 - Shit
QW - Shitter
Wow.. you are judging the final product based on one level running from beta code. Have you ever even played any game in the Quake series? It's meant to be fast.:confused:
KIDD_QUAKE_WARS_CONGESTEE
06-20-2007, 08:31 PM
totaly agree with original post. and whoever says that it takes 20 mins to get into combat in bf2, your retarted, cus if you actually know what your doing, youd get into combat right away. frigen jewish leprichones.
Sublim3
06-20-2007, 08:31 PM
This thread along with the orig author sux.
If you dont like ET or Quake you probly wont like this game.
And to not like a game just because the BETA, realy makes ur noobskates roll.
oh and to above poster Quake Wars Congestee...
BF2 SUX n00b ARSE!!
mortis
06-20-2007, 08:38 PM
totaly agree with original post. and whoever says that it takes 20 mins to get into combat in bf2, your retarted, cus if you actually know what your doing, youd get into combat right away. frigen jewish leprichones.
*sigh* 'tis the season, I guess
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2003/20031107l.gif
Hakuryu
06-20-2007, 08:51 PM
Well I thought Oblivion sucked. Worst pos game in fancy graphics I've ever played... yet look how well it did. Halo was another godawful pos that totally stumped me why people thought it was so great... yet it did extremely well.
I didn't go on those game boards and call it a pos though... what's the point? Fanboy's are going to flame me, others simply won't care what I post, and after all is said and done, nothing positive would have come out of it. I think the OP just wants some attention... he could have easily gone and played BF2 rather than stirring up people here.
Obviously others don't feel Quake Wars sucks, in fact they are loving it. Last night I played about 4 hours and it was common to see people saying stuff like "this game rocks!" and "omfg I love this". Only 1 person in all that time said it sucked, and I think it had something to do with his 1997 computer from his complaints about frames per second.
There were alot of full servers, and even with the bugs at this beta stage, there seems to be alot more people that think the game rocks than sucks.
Houdini
06-20-2007, 09:06 PM
"Sorry it is a twitch game from hell."
Please don't tell me that. I do not want to see an FPS with a huge dose of tactical elements in a twitch-speed games environment... it doesnt work. that's like taking UT and saying.. here's your game.. but you don't get crosshairs.
huh? I need crosshairs.
no you don't, that's tactical.. this is twitch. does not compute.
heres to hoping that it really isnt too fast, and that if it is, reduced speed servers will be available.