You yell at someone to do something, he does not listen...

[signofzeta]

It is better to type what you are trying to say when that happens. At that time, the player probably has his audio off. I have a thread in the general discussion explaining my brain fart.

Yelling at the player won't do any justice, just type the message out in BIG BOLD CAPITAL LETTERS.

If you have voip, don't think that the player on the receiving end is going to hear it 100%. If it does not work a couple of times, type the message out. He will see it for sure. Or use that voice chat menu.

Of course I had my audio turned off, so I didn't know what happened.

Ok so I will devote this thread pertaining to voip, while the other one talks about oops moments, and brain farts.

[TreeFrog]

i do whatever i wannnnnt

[Sojiro]

It may not be that they don't hear you but didn't listen to you because your yelling at them in voip. Why the hell would I want to listen to someone like that no matter if they were to know more about me in the game or not?

[signofzeta]

It may not be that they don't hear you but didn't listen to you because your yelling at them in voip. Why the hell would I want to listen to someone like that no matter if they were to know more about me in the game or not?

I wasn't yelling, but they would have yelled if I didn't listen right? But I couldn't hear because my sound was turned off.

[Szakalot]

u see, the main point is that people do what they want and dont give a damn about what u say to them. The only thing voip should be used for is game status : where is the enemy, what he is doing, how much hp, whatever he has got, whats my status, whad do i need, where, when etc. Ordering people, unless they openly accept is usually useless.

[Kroyn]

Yea. I'll just agree and say the that people should only tell people what is available for them. Weather you are telling them the bomb is 98% planted. Or where a sniper is. You don't go in your list and look for a sniper and say. (Sniper) THERE SNIPER IS HERE KILL HIM NOW.


You say where the sniper is and hope someone is ready to take him out. Iv been getting pretty annoyed hearing people scream and yell like this is life and death. It's not even a match :S

[signofzeta]

Yea. I'll just agree and say the that people should only tell people what is available for them. Weather you are telling them the bomb is 98% planted. Or where a sniper is. You don't go in your list and look for a sniper and say. (Sniper) THERE SNIPER IS HERE KILL HIM NOW.


You say where the sniper is and hope someone is ready to take him out. Iv been getting pretty annoyed hearing people scream and yell like this is life and death. It's not even a match :S

If you read my other thread, I assume people were yelling at me, because there was a bomb ticking, and I was a constructor just standing there, and killing the enemies, instead of defusing it because I didn't see that it was planted, well I had my audio off. I was wondering why my teamies were shooting me, until I saw the timer. Could have typed out the message you know, but that probably does not work either, since well I was focusing on the center of the screen rather than the edges. I was using a widescreen monitor.

[DreamcastJunkie]

Deploy a freaken radar already!

[GanjMahal]

I think the tendancy for there to be a lack of communication in this game is borne from the way people have traditionally been playing shooters for years--usually as DeathMatches, CTF, or not entirely dissimilar variants like King of the Hill or Suitcase games from Bond or Perfect Dark. In most FPS games, players just kind of do their own thing--even in a team setting the only real distinction is that there are a bunch of players you won't be shooting at, as opposed to targetting indiscriminantly. Many gamers have likely developed the habit of listening to music or (as someone has already suggested) simply playing with sounds off. A good many of them obviously don't know or care that ETQW isn't a Deathmatch game.

I played a match last night where my team started with 5 Coverts, 5 Field Ops, 3 Engineers, 2 Medics and 1 Soldier for the opening stage of Sewer. I asked for about ten minutes in both chat and VOIP what the deal was, and received no acknowledgement over either medium. It almost felt like I was playing with bots. I think eventually one of the coverts went Engineer, but that didn't happen until about the 8 or 9 minute mark. I don't even know whether they built the EMP generator or not, since I got TK'd about 4 times in 45 seconds and decided to call it a night.

I almost get the impression that people don't know how to change classes, but this is silly since you always start out as soldier/aggressor when you join a new team and class imbalance is very common with Field Ops and Coverts. People might be going for their fire support badges, but that's kind of pointless when you have 5 Field Ops and can only call down a handful of (likely intercepted, since you have 5 sodding Field Ops and they've probably noticed) artillery strikes per match.

I really hope some servers get off the ground with class/weapon limits like we'd sometimes see in the W:ET servers with panzer/mortar caps and whatnot. This will simultaneously solve two huge problems that are noted generators of shitty gameplay:


Teams (okay, Strogg teams, since I've never seen more than 3 or so GPMGs on a GDF squad) where 75% of its members are using heavies/rockets
and
Noobs who pick classes already overloaded.


Here's to hoping. I don't expect (nor would I ask) this for ranked servers, but I'm starting to get tired of that scene anyway.

[noobie pwner]

it seems ppl pnly use voice to yell at ppl, sometimes they r nice and ask ppl to do stuff and say srys 4 TKs, but usually they r jerk faces and its sooo anoying!

[nick_ss]

I usually listen to people when they are talking. I don't like giving out too many instruction, because people won't listen and they just do their own thing.

It is pretty obvious like in the first and second phase of salvage, you would throw violators on strogg. Yet, I have been into games where no one did that. It can be very annoying sometimes, where people just go off and do their own thing and without thinking about the team.

There is also the other end of the equation, in a game doing bioscanner ark, last objective, 12 aggressors with hyperblaster and planted about 10 charges, and it went down fast.

[TreeFrog]

people sometimes would yell on VOIP, "okay, get in the bumblebee!"

and i be thinking, "i ain't getting in that since you're driving"

[Rapier]

I sometimes get told to roll covert or engi instead of medic to help the team while others are doing the hillhugging or just be plain useless. Those orders are often ignored. Why should I be the one to change when I am the medic. I know that I will be useless from time to time simply due to the fact that my teammates arent attacking the objective so I dont have anyone to revive at the objective were I can be found so often.

Other games I just play engi no matter what to get the self arming mines, with a good team those mines are so good. I always pop them on planted charges to surprise enemy engi's :P.

[nick_ss]

people sometimes would yell on VOIP, "okay, get in the bumblebee!"

and i be thinking, "i ain't getting in that since you're driving"

LOL, yeah, that happens quite often. Bumblebee can be a dangerous vehicles to get in, if there is a noob pilot.

[pierrat]

People shouldnt type, they should be playing. To stop and type is an incredible waste of time not to mention you'll probably end up dead when someone see's you standing there. It always happens no matter how safe you think you are.

[NIDCLXVI]

I only ever seem to get "virtual coaches" when I have VOIP on accidentally after resetting some setting that causes all my options to reset. Usually a non-English as-their-first-language individual shouting out about every enemies position. The alternative being a prepubescent tugging on his nads screaming he is the only one doing anything useful while he camps in the hills sniping.

Just deploy a radar instead of yelling out where people are and use the in game voicechats, they keep the game in character and say all you need "construct/destroy/hack/defend/attack the objective"

I have them all bound to my arrow keys with various shift functions

ie uparrow = I am an $classspecific
shit + uparraow = " I am going to "do my class specific action ie plant the explosives"
left arrow = construct the objective
down = destroy
right = hack

etc.

Far more fluid and faster and in keeping with the experience (screechy girly voiced Strogg? :confused: ) than talking.

I still hate voip on pubs. NO ONE LISTENS and there is NO ONE WORTH LISTENING TO!

Hence I only use xfire with my mates and type all else and use the in game voicechats.

[Seanza]

On the pub you shouldn't really have to care what your team-mate is saying to you.

Personally though, I do. And I also care when some nub doesn't listen to me.

For example:

Salvage, we got gen on 1st rush
, constructed mining laser with just under 17 mins to go. We had 1 infiltrator. He didn't deploy a radar after numerous VOIP shouting incident, global chat type-outs & vsay spams "Deploy a radar!!!!"

Finally he replies, "I have a radar, I put it up in the base when I 1st spawned so STFU" (just imagine the LOLZ at this point).

After he didn't understand he needed to move it (10 mins into the attack on the last objective I switched to infiltrator, we got the plant within a couple of mins.

But yeah, I don't think that dude gave a F**K what we wanted, he was there for him & to play fun. And that's what the pubs are there for I guess. Well for ppl like that anyway.

[pierrat]

I only ever seem to get "virtual coaches" when I have VOIP on accidentally after resetting some setting that causes all my options to reset. Usually a non-English as-their-first-language individual shouting out about every enemies position. The alternative being a prepubescent tugging on his nads screaming he is the only one doing anything useful while he camps in the hills sniping.

Just deploy a radar instead of yelling out where people are and use the in game voicechats, they keep the game in character and say all you need "construct/destroy/hack/defend/attack the objective"

I have them all bound to my arrow keys with various shift functions

ie uparrow = I am an $classspecific
shit + uparraow = " I am going to "do my class specific action ie plant the explosives"
left arrow = construct the objective
down = destroy
right = hack

etc.

Far more fluid and faster and in keeping with the experience (screechy girly voiced Strogg? :confused: ) than talking.

I still hate voip on pubs. NO ONE LISTENS and there is NO ONE WORTH LISTENING TO!

Hence I only use xfire with my mates and type all else and use the in game voicechats.

I guess you dont realize how detrimental it is if everyone was like you who didnt use voicechat. If 5 people had it and 5 people didnt, with skill being equal who do you think would win the vast majority of the time?

Isnt it funny how any competing clan requires voicechat as mandatory? That speaks volumes in and of itself.

[kaboomski]

Some people (a lot of people actually) don't respond well to getting yelled at.

I try the polite approach.

1st time: pls get a radar up

2nd time: we need radar fast

3rd time: RADAR pls

4th time: Cov Ops get a RADAR

5th time: PUT DOWN A RADAR FFS!

:D People usually get the idea by the 3rd attempt.

[pierrat]

yeah I usually ask about 3 times, in about 10 minutes. If its not up by then it will never be up and I resign my fate and just forget about it. I'd put up radar more but honestly im not that good as a covert and I can do so much more for my team doing what I usually do.

[Ravenous]

I have VOIP disabled since I only play on pubs and as someone said before VOIP on pubs = poo :p
The only ppl ever talking on pub VOIP are ppl screaming out their anger for getting owned by some blaster or ppl accusing other ppl of stealing "their" vehicles :/ Such players can annoy me to the point where I don't want to play anymore and just log off, so no VOIP for me;)

Most ppl use the V-say commands for the important things anyway :)

[Kalbuth]

I hate 2 things :
- CovOps never deploying a radar
- People shouting at me to deploy a radar.







:O
Yes, I'm the average QW player :p

[Lemonhead]

Yeah, 90% of people going into FFA mode in teamplay-based game is the reason why I quit Quake Wars. Being not good enough for competitive gaming and fed up with no communication on pubs means little fun if you ask me.

[DugDanger]

Yeah i had some friends around the other night, and one was playing on my quakewars account. I was on a random 32 slot server a admin guy starts shouting at my buddy telling him what to do, of course he doesn't know the game and gets kicked for not listening.......not a great way to introduce people into the game.

[signofzeta]

You know what I hate? People telling me to deploy a radar when my radar keeps on getting destroyed. C'mon man, I just deployed it a few seconds ago.

SO, I deploy it somewhere else. It is as likely to get destroyed, or it wouldn't have enough range.

I'm thinking, if we only get a few seconds of radar coverage anyway, why deploy it?

This happened in island. I find that there is no point in deploying radars if it keeps on getting destroyed and your engineers are yelling at you, rather than fixing it.

[Kalbuth]

Though as GDF, if it's the case, you should immediatly go put your 3rd-eye in the most usefull place possible.
My 1st reflex on Volcano last obj, for example.

[Kroyn]

Yea that is very useful i wish more people did that. Another example ..The shield gen on valley.. or last objective. Making sure it is close to the objective. But yea. I always forget about the radar for a while tho :P from not having it in comp.

[GanjMahal]

I only ever seem to get "virtual coaches" when I have VOIP on accidentally after resetting some setting that causes all my options to reset. Usually a non-English as-their-first-language individual shouting out about every enemies position. The alternative being a prepubescent tugging on his nads screaming he is the only one doing anything useful while he camps in the hills sniping.

Just deploy a radar instead of yelling out where people are and use the in game voicechats, they keep the game in character and say all you need "construct/destroy/hack/defend/attack the objective"

I have them all bound to my arrow keys with various shift functions

ie uparrow = I am an $classspecific
shit + uparraow = " I am going to "do my class specific action ie plant the explosives"
left arrow = construct the objective
down = destroy
right = hack

etc.

Far more fluid and faster and in keeping with the experience (screechy girly voiced Strogg? :confused: ) than talking.

I still hate voip on pubs. NO ONE LISTENS and there is NO ONE WORTH LISTENING TO!

Hence I only use xfire with my mates and type all else and use the in game voicechats.

One word:

Dumbass.

[Tandem]

some ppl are just clueless,
I dont expect much on any pub

[NIDCLXVI]

One word:

Dumbass.

How so? Please enlighten me kind sir with further words of wisdom? :)

[m1rra]

Don't yell at others. It makes you look stupid.

[GanjMahal]

How so? Please enlighten me kind sir with further words of wisdom? :)

Sure, but you've already posted a big "I don't listen to others" rant so I'm quite assuredly wasting my time.

VOIP wins games! The way ETQW is set up (objective based maps, class structure etc) lends itself to a little thing called "communication" whereby members of one team will speak a certain combination of words to their teammates in order to ensure a proper defense/offense or what-have-you. If you're getting "coaches" from your team, chances are you're getting them for a reason. VOIP use in this game is usually goal-oriented (just like the game itself) and seldom devloves into the "Halo Phenomenon" of 12-year-olds shouting obscenities into their mics. In fact, I have yet to hear this.

To be frank, if you're getting "coaches" from your team that implies to me that you're doing something radically unnecessary like hill-hugging or farting around to some obviously unproductive degree. I do not generally hear players bitch out teammates for anything other than hillhugging, playing the wrong class (like Field Ops or Engineer on the last stage of Refinery, to name one), or obviously avoidable TK's. If you can't help but notice every time you turn on VOIP that peope are upset with you, chances are the problem is with you and not with them.

Also, your generalization that "all you need to say" in this game is "construct/hack/destroy" is mind-numbingly spurious. If your team is so obviously disinterested in the objective that they "need" these cues, you're not going to win anyway. If anything, they're the most useless vsays in the game by a very wide margin.

I stand by my earlier post. I had a feeling I'd get an infraction for it, but it had to be said. Players like you are 100% the reason why some games (like the one I just watched) are so abysmal. Either turn VOIP on or GTFO, in my not-so-humble opinion.

[NIDCLXVI]

Big long ramble ending with:

I stand by my earlier post. I had a feeling I'd get an infraction for it, but it had to be said. Players like you are 100% the reason why some games (like the one I just watched) are so abysmal. Either turn VOIP on or GTFO, in my not-so-humble opinion.

Alas, miscommunication makes fools of us all. :O I did not say that any of the VOIPs were actually aimed at me, I also meant coaches as in the "coach yelling at his team to do stuff" (like team voip, to any who will hear them). You know the type, generally American or prepubescent, assuming (much like yourself) that other players are useless and are in need of instruction.

I communicate with my team using vsays just fine thank you (see my various posts helping people to bind them) and I am sure most other players realise the objective vsays were merely examples in my post (you misconstrued an incredible amount ole' boy), and *goo and the other OCB players can vouch for that, what with me keeping them all alive as much as possible as technician and medic and all and generally having great fun and excellent teamwork! :dance:

For my mates I use voip xfire, but that is a different story, I also use it with fireteam people that have played really well on my team.

I think maybe... lay off the ganj?!?!

[GanjMahal]

Alas, miscommunication makes fools of us all. :O I did not say that any of the VOIPs were actually aimed at me,

Might want to work on your word choice then:

I only ever seem to get "virtual coaches" when I have VOIP on...
If you wanted to clarify that it was your team getting the coaches, you might've indicated it by saying "My Team" Instead of "I." Some of us are very literal and will (gasp!) take statements at face value. Just a tip for the future.

I also meant coaches as in the "coach yelling at his team to do stuff" (like team voip, to any who will hear them). You know the type, generally American or prepubescent, assuming (much like yourself) that other players are useless and are in need of instruction.

Yes, people "coach" their team by telling them what needs to be done and what's the best way to do it. THATS EXACTLY WHAT VOIP IS FOR. You're basically saying "VOIP sucks because people use it."

Also, I'm wondering just how you know so much about who talks and what they say if you have VOIP off all the time. For someone who never uses it, you sure do seem to be an expert about who talks and what they say. I've never heard a pre-teen on ETQW VOIP in my life.

I communicate with my team using vsays just fine thank you (see my various posts helping people to bind them)
I must have missed the patch that had a"get to the plant they're about to disarm" vsay or "Hey watch out there's a couple guys around that corner."

and I am sure most other players realise the objective vsays were merely examples in my post (you misconstrued an incredible amount ole' boy),

Just deploy a radar instead of yelling out where people are and use the in game voicechats, they keep the game in character and say all you need "construct/destroy/hack/defend/attack the objective"
And Lo, the air was filled with the sound of backpedaling.

Whether you meant it or not the bolded part pretty clearly implies that the objective vsays are the only important ones. Maybe you're simply lauding them for their brevity, but that seems kind of beside the point.

and *goo and the other OCB players can vouch for that, what with me keeping them all alive as much as possible as technician and medic and all and generally having great fun and excellent teamwork! :dance:

For my mates I use voip xfire, but that is a different story, I also use it with fireteam people that have played really well on my team.
I never said you couldn't do your job or shoot at people effectively. I've never played with/against you, nor am I saying that you have to talk on VOIP all the time to be a good player. But what I am saying is that the generalization that "no one is worth listening to" and that VOIP is dominated by "prepubescents" is, to be blunt, laughably myopic.

I'm guessing you're one of these people soured to the whole experience by Halo or a similar game (since the VOIP you describe is clearly not ETQW VOIP), and you've decided that the communities must be identical or at least similar, but they're not.

I think maybe... lay off the ganj?!?!
I think maybe... lay off the stupid pills!?!?!!

[SynExpl0it]

I definitely agree that the VoIP helps a team out and can determine the fate of a team, but I disagree that it exists or should be used for "coaches".

Communication is imperative to victory and not using it puts a team at a much greater disadvantage. With that said, I hate hearing people on VoIP yelling and barking orders to others. It's true that some people need help, but yelling will never get the job done. People do not respond to people bi**hing at them to do something no matter how right you are. This is basic Communication 101. Being a jerk and yelling is not the answer.

Like another person said, ask nicely a few times and it might happen. If it doesn't then be a little more direct. Annoying someone or pissing someone off by yelling will only make the team suffer even more for the duration of the campaign because they will want to just defy you even more.

Remember, this is a game. Yes, most of us play and take it very seriously, but as soon as you act like the boss people will just say "screw it" and do what they want rather than helping out. And then things will definitely not get done.

//Syn

[Finko]

Sounds strange, but VOIP takes me out of the game. I never have it on.

[GanjMahal]

In my experience, very few people use it to begin with. They might have working mics, but as a general rule I've found things usually stay silent unless there's idle chatter going on (which happens a lot on my server, for example). Believe it or not it annoys me sometimes too, but dismissing it as "useless" is just as dumb as saying VOIP is the best thing since sliced bread and for the same reasons. Just like almost anything else in life, it can suck sometimes but it has its uses, and you may ignore these tools at your team's peril.

When I say "VOIP exists for coaching" I say it because the term 'coach' is obviously being applied liberally here. If I'm on a team using VOIP and this guy happened to hear me say "Come on around that left side, it's clear," I'm sure he'd chalk it up to 'coaching' and it would reinforce his opinions appropriately.

That said, I'm not saying people should scream into their mics or whatever--if I'm pissy enough with my team to be that angry, I'll type. Maybe we've had different experiences, but I haven't really heard much of this go on. I don't know when/where you play but I haven't exactly noticed a flood of schoolchildren or overzealous microphone users. I've only been an active admin for a couple of weeks now, but even in the past it's nothing that's stood out as a long-term problem to the order of magnitude necessary to mute the function entirely. My case is simply that VOIP's usefulness outweighs its annoying-ness, if that's even a word.

[NIDCLXVI]

defensive rant full of misinterpretations of comments and assumptions.



To keep this short as to reduce the chance of confusing any readers:
I join 3/4 full servers with the lowest ping and when my favourites are empty (OCB and PINK TACO :p ) I go random. On these servers I tried Team VOIP, from the get go there is yelling and it is along these lines: "there a guy there", "stop I am coming", "I don't believe it BULLSH*T", "WTF?! WTF?!", "You all suck, I am sniping so do it, plant it".... etc.

This rambling and shouting of random facts does not in any way help (me at least, I am usually too busy reviving our guys to win), who decides who speaks to whom about what? My left or your left though you are at the other side of the building? VOIP does not a coherent plan make in the hands of a pub n00b.

I did not say "voip is poo" I love voip (as mentioned in my post), I dislike VOIP on pubs (hint is in my post's title) with people that do not use it well.

by ME
Just deploy a radar instead of yelling out where people are and use the in game voicechats, they keep the game in character and say all you need "construct/destroy/hack/defend/attack the objective"

See how you misread that? As "they" = voicechats, "THEY" say all you need, then there are common examples, sorry I did not put a huge neon sign saying "EXAMPLES" fellow forum goers. (I love that in "Clerks")

I wont go into much further detail as to why your post is just a flame about potential interpretations of statements and not at all constructive, as you happily left out the bit at the bottom of my post where I say I do use it (it being VOIP just to be clear,I mean accurate so as to not confuse you with transparent) selectively:
by ME
I still hate voip on pubs. NO ONE LISTENS and there is NO ONE WORTH LISTENING TO!

Hence I only use xfire with my mates and type all else and use the in game voicechats.

So this must be some sort of witch hunt. Anyway, I am entitled to not have VOIP on and therefore not hear some drunk/stoned/immature/idiotic/supremist/overly-literal/presumptive individual bark orders/info at random. Thanks. :rolleyes:

As for my friends on xfire and fireteam voip, well.... I think I have already stated once before??? :confused:

[signofzeta]

the purpose of this thread, is to say that if people can't hear you on voip, just type the message out, because they probably had their audio off, like that time, when I forgot to defuse a charge that I was standing near.

[nick_ss]

People shouldnt type, they should be playing. To stop and type is an incredible waste of time not to mention you'll probably end up dead when someone see's you standing there. It always happens no matter how safe you think you are.

You shouldn't be typing all the time, but you can type when you are respawning, or waiting for a tech to come to you.

You can type short message like, "charge armed 90%" or something like that to tell your fellow soldiers/aggressor, who hasn't gotten killed yet to rush in to arm a HE/Plasma charge.

You don't need to type essay long comments or saying stupid things.

[GanjMahal]

a bunch of stuff that calls to mind the words "kettle" and "black" when it comes to understanding each others' posts
Nothing I've said above is untrue, and you seem to be laboring under the assumption that nothing worthwhile goes on in pub VOIP. But since you (apparently? you're unclear on this) have VOIP muted I'm wondering where you get these impressions.

Look, if you just plain dont like it or prefer to play with it off that's your business, but what I'm reacting to here more than anything else is that you seem to be proselytizing the viewpoint that VOIP is "uesless" and should be avoided in pubs. If it works for you, that's fine--I'd just prefer it be made clear that it's an issue of prefernce over performance. I dont particularly want to return to the pre-1.2 days, thankyoudrivethrough. I think VOIP has generally improved gameplay and (whether you play with it on or off, or know it or not) made for a more enjoyable experience. I don't think we should be encouraging people to not use it.

[NIDCLXVI]

Nothing I've said above is untrue, and you seem to be laboring under the assumption that nothing worthwhile goes on in pub VOIP. But since you (apparently? you're unclear on this) have VOIP muted I'm wondering where you get these impressions.

Look, if you just plain dont like it or prefer to play with it off that's your business, but what I'm reacting to here more than anything else is that you seem to be proselytizing the viewpoint that VOIP is "uesless" and should be avoided in pubs. If it works for you, that's fine--I'd just prefer it be made clear that it's an issue of prefernce over performance. I dont particularly want to return to the pre-1.2 days, thankyoudrivethrough. I think VOIP has generally improved gameplay and (whether you play with it on or off, or know it or not) made for a more enjoyable experience. I don't think we should be encouraging people to not use it.

NOW I have VOIP (in game) muted thanks to my aforementioned experiences, I have formed an opinion on "VOIP on Pubs" and posted it here for discussion relating to why people do not respond to people "yelling" at you to do something "on pubs" using VOIP. I mean the thread title in itself hints at the possible reasons why most have it off (my 4 mates I play regularly with at least) and probably use a 3rd party application like xfire (I do).

I have not said you are wrong, you are entitled to your opinion, I am defending mine in that you think my opinion is wrong. Well opinions often are, it is not FACT that VOIP on pubs is great or pants, it is peoples opinions. This is MY opinion, just stop flaming and being so aggresive/assumptive/ignorant.

I mean to italics your googled alternative to "convert" as if to make it clear you are capable of multisyllabic words even though it does not apply (I did not say nobody else use it, I said I dont use it on pubs as I have very rarely had a positive experience and I just use xfire all the time anyway).

So lets end this before it get's out of hand, I agree thet we disagree pal. No hard feelings. :cool:

[GorkerMorker]

Some people (a lot of people actually) don't respond well to getting yelled at.

I try the polite approach.

1st time: pls get a radar up

2nd time: we need radar fast

3rd time: RADAR pls

4th time: Cov Ops get a RADAR

5th time: PUT DOWN A RADAR FFS!

:D People usually get the idea by the 3rd attempt.

Adres the covert ops bij their names, increases your chance of having a radar by 2.3%.

[Kalbuth]

Adres the covert ops bij their names, increases your chance of having a radar by 2.3%.

Some people have their name with black and pink letters that are impossible to read!!!!111

[KeFeaR]

VoiP allready rules solely because we can listen to Ganj's masculent baritones.

[GanjMahal]

I mean to italics your googled alternative to "convert" as if to make it clear you are capable of multisyllabic words even though it does not apply (I did not say nobody else use it, I said I dont use it on pubs as I have very rarely had a positive experience and I just use xfire all the time anyway).

You didn't say "no one should use it" but surely you can see how someone might construe your coming in and going "NO ONE LISTENS AND NO ONE IS WORTH LISTENING TO!" (in all caps, obviously) as promoting the viewpoint to an unnecessary degree.

Also, I couldn't care less what you or anyone here thinks of my vocabulary. I used "proselytize" because it seemed appropriate. Don't flatter yourself into thinking I have a pressing urge to prove my intelligence to you.

[appleseed]

After readin all your post, I'm surprised that you all think voip on pub is crap, I play only on pub servers and I never heard too much newbies, allways polites guyz who ask for things and inform us where sniper are etc... Maybe Now you all compete its just a bit hard to go back to your basis... Anyway this game is great , just dont think all new players are newb, all old players are gods, chavs exist everywhere!
peace ;)

[K.o.G]

why would anyone use VOIP in a pub game? first thing i do when i create a new account to get passed all the lamers that ban me is turn off VOIP lol.

[nick_ss]

Some people have their name with black and pink letters that are impossible to read!!!!111

Yeah I do that, I'm going to change it now. I was under the false impression it made me look cooler.

[noobie pwner]

my post has nothing to do with the topic, i just wanted to point out that thats absoulutly halarious how "Ravenous" posts:
peanut butter stroyent time :dance: