Any guesses on ID's new game?

[jammie_d]

OK, ID is being crazilly secretive about their new game. Return To Castle Wolfenstein 2 has been confirmed, but theres somthing else too. Apparently (If I can remember correctly), its unlike anything ID would normally create.

Any Ideas about the new game?

[Lanz]

It's a new IP, that much we know, and that it will use a similar system like the megatexture but for everything and not just terrain. I would guess it will be a game that will actually differ itself quit a bit from games like doom and quake. Many people really didn't like Doom 3 for example and they been called engine develpers a lot lately so I guess they been settin up a goal to change peoples minds about that.

Still I have no clue what kind of game they're actually working on though.

[fusen]

something to do with violent Rage?

[donny]

Quake Wars 2 ;d

[Lanz]

Quake Wars 2 ;d
To be pedantic; wouldn't that be Enemy Territory 2? And... no I doubt it. :)

[qwcfab]

Interesting. I hadnt heard anything bout the new game.

/me goes to investigate.

[taken]

Only confirmed game is "Castle Wolfenstein" (RTCW 2), for the nextgen consoles.

But guess they are making a new engine :)

[JiggaJigga]

I haven't heard of a new game. Please do inform us if you find anything new.

[jammie_d]

If you wondering what the hell I'm talking about, check this out:
http://www.quakeunity.com/file=2336

[Anarchy]

I'd like to see something like a Deus Ex style Shooter/RPG mix :)

[clownius™]

Severity?
or is that SD? :S

[Zeitlos Eisen]

RTCW2 is going to own, is it on PC? I'm too lazy to check

[f4natik]

RTCW2 is going to own, is it on PC? I'm too lazy to check

Yes, RTCW 2 will be released for Xbox 360 and PC (http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/board.pl?action=viewthread&threadid=60851).

[Commander Keen]

I think Carmack has always wanted to do something with VR, but I'm not sure they're there yet.

I'm thinking the mega texture project got him interested in making an engine that scales to larger environments so I'm thinking it will be something like Far Cry but maybe more Sci-Fi with large outdoor environments.

So my guess is there making something that supports very large seamlessly loading environments.

However they could surprise the heck out of us and it's a Ferrari driving SIM. ;)

[jammie_d]

I think Carmack has always wanted to do something with VR, but I'm not sure they're there yet.

I'm thinking the mega texture project got him interested in making an engine that scales to larger environments so I'm thinking it will be something like Far Cry but maybe more Sci-Fi with large outdoor environments.

So my guess is there making something that supports very large seamlessly loading environments.

However they could surprise the heck out of us and it's a Ferrari driving SIM. ;)

I have to say, thats a good guess. Larger enviroments have been increasingly used in ID based games. Doom 3 was narrow and small, Quake 4 was a lot larger, now ETQW is going to be half a country!

[b0rsuk]

I heard that it won't be an .... FPS game. Right. But still some kind of action game, and judging by the fact they use Megatexture it could be:

- some kind of vehicle simulator !
- third person perspective game like Rune
- it may let you control more than one character at a time, Cannon Fodder anyone ?
- old shool arcade game with modern graphics and some fresh twist

[murka10]

quake 5 will come.

[jammie_d]

quake 5 will come.

I heard that there was going to be a Quake 4 Expansion pack! lol. Kinda doubt that now... Would be so kool though. The unfinished story with Quake 4 is upsetting.
Quake 5 arena? Or quake 4 continued?

[Camaxide]

I'd like to see a team-game that didnt hide as a wargame or army-thing.. a game that lets you customise a player that can look like you in person, and from there you could have objective-driven gameplay, like capture the flag and such - but new inovative goals. Driving things to the next level, and make you feel more like its you and your friends in there, and not a squad of matcho-army-killers going nuts.. And I hope the new game involves fragging..

[moonshield]

I heard that there was going to be a Quake 4 Expansion pack! lol. Kinda doubt that now... Would be so kool though. The unfinished story with Quake 4 is upsetting.
Quake 5 arena? Or quake 4 continued?

I would prefer a Quake 1 sequel^^ iD should get Romero back...

[umulamahri]

I herd on some podcast I don't remember which(probly EGM) that they got to see it. It will use some of the same ID style of art that doom3 and quake use. So in other words Blood and Gore. Witch I like. And it will use a type of megatextureing that is used with everything in the world, Witch will let artest put more detail in the game than ever before with big outside areas. Useing a new game eng. Being developed by Jhon Carmack.

I really hope they finaly anouce it at E3 or Quakecon2007.

Sorry if I repeated anything you guys allready said


EDIT: No (lanz) its not, Would you perfer a baner....

[Lanz]

I heard that it won't be an .... FPS game.
I doubt they will leave the FPS genre, even for one game. They just have to much manpower suited for just FPS games. I can be wrong though.

Edit: Btw umulamahri, is it really necissary to take up half a page with your PC spec? Kind of annoying tbh.

[jammie_d]

I'd like to see a team-game that didnt hide as a wargame or army-thing.. a game that lets you customise a player that can look like you in person, and from there you could have objective-driven gameplay, like capture the flag and such - but new inovative goals. Driving things to the next level, and make you feel more like its you and your friends in there, and not a squad of matcho-army-killers going nuts.. And I hope the new game involves fragging..

Hows abouts ninjas? Where you have to steal gold or somthing, using your team to reach the objective unidentied. Well, that sounds too opposite to ID, so I guess it would be more like the Cold War, so no weapons, but sneeking around, finding documents with your elite group.

[space]

MMOFPS using megatextures.

They have said it is a new universe, but that's it.

[Camaxide]

Hows abouts ninjas? Where you have to steal gold or somthing, using your team to reach the objective unidentied. Well, that sounds too opposite to ID, so I guess it would be more like the Cold War, so no weapons, but sneeking around, finding documents with your elite group.

Are you somehow refering to TMNT? :p

[jammie_d]

Are you somehow refering to TMNT? :p

I could well be. Who knows at this hour. I sure dont.

[space]

I could well be. Who knows at this hour. I sure dont.

It's going to be an MMOFPS.. maybe not soley FPS.. it would be nice to see the Quake axe make a revival.

Massive online world forsure, the megatexture advancement points id engine developement in that direction.

/puts money on the table

[Hakuryu]

Pong 2008 Edition ftw.

[Dead_Stop]

In an interview John Carmack said it would be something entirely different from anything they've ever done

[jammie_d]

It's going to be an MMOFPS.. maybe not soley FPS.. it would be nice to see the Quake axe make a revival.

Massive online world forsure, the megatexture advancement points id engine developement in that direction.

/puts money on the table

I do like that idea.
Imagine creating the entire world as a level for quake wars, where strogg are bots and you are human, completeing missions for money to swap for new weapons/vehicles etc. Sounds kinda cool.

[NoControl]

Isn't Raven making RTCW2? Or some other company close to id, but i'm pretty sure it's not in-house game like Doom3.

[umulamahri]

Isn't Raven making RTCW2? Or some other company close to id, but i'm pretty sure it's not in-house game like Doom3.

YES this is true, ID is focusing on their new IP.:D

But they are giving support to the developers that are working on their other projects as well. Just like ETQW

[donny]

Maybe it'll be Quake 5 or Doom 4? ;d

[jammie_d]

3D Commander keen!!!
That. Would. Be. Awesome!

[Martijn]

Yea the good old days with Commander Keen, Duke nukem and Wolfenstein 3d :)

[jammie_d]

Funny you say that - 2 of the 3 you mentioned have been/are being remade. Commander keen hasnt. Its a sign!

[fusen]

I reckon it'll be charged monthly like WoW

the recent hullabaloo from id software regarding piracy making them lose millions, I wouldn't be surprised if they try and go the WoW route with a fixed amount of incame every month etc.

[donny]

something like Quake MMORPG ;d

[jammie_d]

something like Quake MMORPG ;d

There actually seems to be a large amount of demand for this.
**Wink Wink Nudge Nudge**

[john_sarmiento]

a possible scene of the next id's game:

[TheEnigma]

Its a new IP, therefore its not a sequel in any of there exsisting series (Doom, Quake, Wolf).

[xrat3d]

I doubt they will leave the FPS genre, even for one game. They just have to much manpower suited for just FPS games. I can be wrong though.

Edit: Btw umulamahri, is it really necissary to take up half a page with your PC spec? Kind of annoying tbh.


It will not be a FPS.

[Lanz]

It will not be a FPS.
Give me the source for that and I'll believe you.

[cheesecake]

My guess is it might be an RTS or an RPG this time around maybe like Orcs and Elves.

[xrat3d]

Give me the source for that and I'll believe you.

I really don't remember the source on internet.. but I do remember that John CarmacK on an video interview has pointed out and loud that it will not be a FPS game..Pretty hard to try to imagine id delivering a non-FPS game.

[john_sarmiento]

Although it won't be their classical FPS style, he said there'll be guns, and a lot of people (to shoot I guess).

[jammie_d]

Hmmm... A lot of confusion around. I think its about time ID released a little information about it. And on that note, maybe a RTCW2 screenshot?
What a great marketing strategy though. Making us wait, bottling our excitment wethin.

[donny]

It will not be a FPS.

Why? Do u think, that ID is going to make real time strategy or something like Heroes Series? I dont think so...

[NoControl]

Wait till QuakeCon 07', im sure they will reveal info about their next games there.

[moonshield]

Why? Do u think, that ID is going to make real time strategy or something like Heroes Series? I dont think so...

An iD RPG would be cool :D.

[b0rsuk]

An iD RPG would be cool :D.

You wouldn't believe, but Quake was originally meant to be an RPG game. It was simplified due to technical limitations (you'd think John Carmack could bypass any technical limit..). It was meant to be about some weird ligtning throwing time-traveling character. References to Quake can be found as early as Commander Keen games (end titles/credits)

[b0rsuk]

I would sure love an action/rpg game like Nox (By Westwood, R.I.P.) . The game had the misfortune of being released close to Diablo2, and was labeled as Diablo clone when it really wasn't. The game didn't enjoy much success because Westwood had very sucky marketing and multiplayer was eventually hacked to hell.

But as far as gameplay went, Nox was great. First of all, unlike Diablo which is stat driven, Nox was much more arcadish and playing ground was even in multiplayer (everyone at same level). Three classes, each with different speed, weapons, spells. Great variety of spells with pros and cons. For example magic missiles were homing, but not very powerful. Fireballs were strong and dealt splash damage, but rate of fire was low and they were hard to hit with. Lightning was easy to hit and could jump from one target to another, but forced you to stand still... Big disadvantage in fast-paced Nox.
The multiplayer had much in common with Quake, actually, up to CTF gametype. I'd love to see someone pick up the idea.... Multiplayer was skill+tactics based, and mostly player vs player, as opposed to Diablo which is mostly PvE and 'I played longer than you' based.

[space]

I really don't remember the source on internet.. but I do remember that John CarmacK on an video interview has pointed out and loud that it will not be a FPS game..Pretty hard to try to imagine id delivering a non-FPS game.

I think I remember that interview, where he said its a new game but still is an FPS.

[PointlesS]

it'll be a puzzle game on xbox live using a fancy new engine ;)

[JAM]

The only thing I can remember Carmack saying about their new game is that there's a lot of people in it.

[b0rsuk]

"Our roots are in the horror/action genre," he said over lunch at QuakeCon, the ongoing annual fan event for fans of id's games. "That suits our tastes and talents. We're thinking about something up that alley. ... [That said], we're keeping the idea vault open. 'Quake' and 'Doom' were both basically a sci-fi game. 'Wolfenstein' was a World War II game. I'd like to try something new."

From a technical standpoint, id's next game will not be as revolutionary as "Doom 3," said Hollenshead. The focus this time is to do something that's remarkably difficult in the gaming world: Establish a new franchise.


The end of the first paragraph. Most probably not WW2 nor sci-fi game. So will it be modern, somewhat outdated (Indiana Jones ?), or something crazy like medieval/ancient ages ?

The end of the second paragraph: the real kicker ! When was the last time that ID Software cared about story / setting ?

[xrat3d]

I think I remember that interview, where he said its a new game but still is an FPS.

I really hope that I misunderstood :cool:

[engrpiman]

How about an FPS GTA game

wait wait --- The should be working on Fallout 3 with those other guys.. come on .. Fallout had guns , large environments, and more blood then you can shake a fist at. plus they have the BALLS to do it unlike Bethesda..

[FreshyK]

According to trademark filings and web domain registrations, it's something called Rage: Anarchy.

I think it will be a 3rd person action-RPG set in a not-too-distant-future-dystopian-Earth where there are lots of revolts. I'm probably wrong though.