Area 22 last objective. Devastating Technique

[Crime-Master]

First, you must have a radar on.

spawn as the soldier with the rocket launcher..

climb on the ladder of the infrastructure just beside the core (the infrastructure opposes the strogs incoming) on the top.

DONT FIRE AT THE INCOMING STROG. GO BACK SO YOU DONT GET INTO THE STROGS VIEW.


look at the radar only, once the strog is near the core, get out and BOOOM.

i killed 10 pretty good players, who were planting, with that techinique.

it works because:
the strogs dont think about clearing the whole core area,, they just go inside when they see that the area is clear enough...

Note: there might be backstabbers and strog with icarus. get rid of the icarus as it comes in,, get off a bit to the edge of the platform so that you wont expose your back so much to die instantly.:cool:

[Szakalot]

hahahaahhahaahhahhaahhaahha
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oh, sry;

yes its totally devastating, suits you well as its pretty skill/effective. But with good player it would not work more than once, as they'll just nade you to death next time.

Strogg have radars too, you know, and you cant hide completely, even proned if they come from the service door and look for you.

[thelonewolf]

damn!, i would never have thought that rocketnubs indoors could have been sooooooooo effective.....

go learn to use a proper weapon so you dont rack up the tks

[whiteaden]

damn!, i would never have thought that rocketnubs indoors could have been sooooooooo effective.....

go learn to use a proper weapon so you dont rack up the tks

SO MUCH HATRED FILLED ANTI-RAWKIT-WORDS :(

but I agree in Crime's case.. :)

[thelonewolf]

I have no disagreement with RLs indoors, its just generally they always end up in my face :o

I'd rather than stand on the railings above the slipgate, can be epic up there sometimes! :)

[whiteaden]

I have no disagreement with RLs indoors, its just generally they always end up in my face :o

I'd rather than stand on the railings above the slipgate, can be epic up there sometimes! :)

I tend to fall off those railings.. I prefer to hang out @ the strogg forward spawn... or on the Strogg team for that matter :)

[Singh400]

Oh god your back.

[Crime-Master]

suits you well as its pretty skill/effective. But with good player it would not work more than once, as they'll just nade you to death next time.[QUOTE]

80% of the players that were in the other team were higher rank than you.
what will they do ...instead of planting, they will climb on the ladder and kill me?
it is a hassle to throw a grenade at me! trust me they dont bother even the second time... once they dive into the action they forget to look at the radar.. try it yourself and you will see that it works well

[QUOTE]go learn to use a proper weapon so you dont rack up the tks
well, how is that relevant? i shoot when there is no one..and even if i tk, the team shouldnt concentrate around the core cause of the mines and the grenades that fly.. arent you familiar with the scenario?

SO MUCH HATRED FILLED ANTI-RAWKIT-WORDS
half of your gibberish i dont understand, so why do you even bother?

I have no disagreement with RLs indoors, its just generally they always end up in my face
you should see how i slaughter the GDF with the obliterator on volcano map second objective
RL is also good to use when you have many medics around..

Strogg have radars too, you know, and you cant hide completely, even proned if they come from the service door and look for you.
they wouldnt care to look for me..on the radar could mean that i am on the ground, first or second floor..they wouldnt really look for me. not all the players play like you , who try to kill anything that is in their sight

[appleseed]

C-M strat strikes again... srsly stop posting strat

[kwisatz_haderach]

We all know it will end with a temp ban ;)

I love indoor RL when there is enough space like Area22 las objective or Refinery last objectives. Best weapon to spam the aliens :p

But i don't think you have to wait for them to plant in Area22, just shoot at everything that gets in is a better solution imo.
Szak already said it but strogg also have radar and good players will nade/GL/whatever you the second they'll get in.

[Random Generator]

LOL shoot rocket, jump down take out an MP and shoot who's planting. It's not like rockets cost you or something :p

[whiteaden]

half of your gibberish i dont understand, so why do you even bother?

I wasn't even talking to you, so why don't you learn to read to who & what I'm responding to...

[Ryan]

Better not piss of whiteaden there :D

And RL inside, it can piss of both sides (teammates and enemys)

(PS whiteaden, I see on your photobucket 2 pics of random maps? One with a fireplace and one with a fence, which one are those? lol. (Fence = retake of the andes?))

[whiteaden]

(PS whiteaden, I see on your photobucket 2 pics of random maps? One with a fireplace and one with a fence, which one are those? lol. (Fence = retake of the andes?))

my own creations.. when I'm bored, I load up the SDK & create something in my mind.. the fireplace isn't about the fireplace, it's about the thing above :)
the fence one(s) were also, different, random creations.. :)

that is if you're talking about this one (http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e164/McGoose/tripmine.jpg), this one (http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e164/McGoose/igCrowbar.jpg) or this one (http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e164/McGoose/random.jpg)

[Szakalot]

80% of the players that were in the other team were higher rank than you.

You know that rank=/ skill right? ehh... you do, RIGHT?


what will they do ...instead of planting, they will climb on the ladder and kill me?

Seeing you play i dare say you hardly would have got a direct hit at a static target so they'll just probably run around and make you waste that rocket.


it is a hassle to throw a grenade at me! trust me they dont bother even the second time... once they dive into the action they forget to look at the radar.. try it yourself and you will see that it works well

I know its a hassle to kill YOU in general, but killing enemies aint, and they possibly didnt know it was you upstairs. So they decide to toss a nade, bang bang your dead.
But dont worry, if you lose its entirely your team (not yours) fault, right? At least thats what you keep saying everytime i see your team lose.


you should see how i slaughter the GDF with the obliterator on volcano map second objective


<clap> - wake up!

You slaughter them so hard you almost get a positive k/d ratio, dont worry, one day you will get it, playing with afk players probably, but nevertheless.

[Crime-Master]

Seeing you play i dare say you hardly would have got a direct hit at a static target so they'll just probably run around and make you waste that rocket.

how the f*ck would they see me?
and no..i dont miss rockets. i hit and kill at least 12 deaths out of 10 shots.. sometimes i kill 2 in one shot. but again you doubt me, there is nothing i can say is there..
so lets assume you hold the RL and fire..no miss, right!

But dont worry, if you lose its entirely your team (not yours) fault, right? At least thats what you keep saying everytime i see your team lose
well, with that technique i am more likely to run out of ammo than die..(which actually happens in the actual game when i play). if you are so terrorized by the thought of a flying grenade, when you hear the strog saying "grenade" move or even jump out of the platform, throw all your grenades on the platform where the core is. if the enemy is still chasing you, shoot the rocket or shoot with the minigun and kill him..what do you want me to say?!?
the time when that RL technique isnt likely to work is when you play 4vs4 or with some other small team like that. cause then the enemy does try to find you..but with a bigger team, the one that i try to play against usually, the technique is likely to guarantee you a win. and consider that i played in a weak team against a higher ranked team.. there were 10 attempts of planting in something like a minute.. i missed one strog, cause i didnt have the time to reload..but the shooting is up to your skill and up to some luck.

You slaughter them so hard you almost get a positive k/d ratio, dont worry, one day you will get it, playing with afk players probably, but nevertheless
i choose the obliterator, depending on how good my team can penetrate the GDF defenses..if it is good with pushing the GDF back so that the strog takes the upper floor, i just stand on the upper floor and blast everyone in 10 seconds and no medics will help. otherwise, i choose the hyperblaster and fight my way to the core in the best way i can


But i don't think you have to wait for them to plant in Area22, just shoot at everything that gets in is a better solution imo
i really want to see how you play. The players that played against my team would slaughter you like everyone else.. so dont preach me about preferances, you arent even familiar with the context i am talking about

LOL shoot rocket, jump down take out an MP and shoot who's planting. It's not like rockets cost you or something
the platform has got 3 entrances (staircases) to it. plus you have an upper platform from which the strog comes and another entrance underneath it and another entrance where the GDF comes from its spawn, which they can also sneak from..and also you have the area underneath the platform from which they can throw grenades..
good luck with your thought!

And RL inside, it can piss of both sides
no..i am going to follow the combat on the radar.. if the radar shows only red spots i fire.and i only assume i kill the planter i might kill 2 or 3 strog and it did happen in the past..why am i elaborating so much on how to look on the radar? :(

[kwisatz_haderach]

i really want to see how you play. The players that played against my team would slaughter you like everyone else.. so dont preach me about preferances, you arent even familiar with the context i am talking about

You're not making any sense...

Did you know an Agressor (it works also with GDF soldiers) can charge another agressor Plasma Charge ?
The best way to defend any objective is just not letting ANYBODY even touch it ! It is not my preference ! This is the reason why when you defend you have to push the enemy out and this is how it works... I did not decide anything...

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[Szakalot]

the position itself aint bad, its pretty good, just like the tank inside the tunnel. Its pretty good, but its tiring to see OP post about how devastating it is, when he cant really juice up half of the potential due to skill constrains.

[mixaldeepshit]

the strogs dont think

i want to ask you, you are playing with bots or with real players? your "technicque" can work with bots only on "easy" settings.

[Random Generator]

um, CM, u look at radar where they are coming from, then shoot.

And never heard of a cooked grenade? Sure, you would throw it, but not all ppl here are noobz like you, and they would throw it with 1 second to spare. It's more like "gre-boom!"

Actually, an even better position is on the struts beneath the roof, as more ground coverage. IMO I would go with a GPMG here, as it's better suited for a dynamic defence.

[Crime-Master]

And never heard of a cooked grenade? Sure, you would throw it, but not all ppl here are noobz like you, and they would throw it with 1 second to spare

the best way to do it is to sneak beneath the platform and throw the grenade..it is possible..but it forces the strog to take the longer way..
longer way means moving through tighter GDF defenses

IMO I would go with a GPMG here, as it's better suited for a dynamic defence.
your dynamic defense will end up in you being blasted from an obliterator. you wont pin anyone with your gpmg..the idea is to pop out in the last moment (when the strog is about to plant) and blast him to space

[Random Generator]

And? The time it takes RL to charge and shoot equals to time it takes to put three bullets into agressors head. Only I can keep shooting long after. And they don't have to run through defence- get on balcony, arm grenade, jump to slipgate platform, throw grenade. Strogg look at radar too. Or just obliderate from the balcony, there's little space to hide from splash damage.

And you are hardly gonna pin down anyone with a RL lol :D

[Crime-Master]

i am not going to pin any one on the platform i am going to blast each strog that is on the platform..think of it as a hammer.

if you can take out each strog every time i reload my RL, you dont need my strategy. not this strategy or the tank strategy, you own at this game.. as a matter of fact you can play only 3 players in your team against a team of 12..
you make quite bold assumptions with your killing abilities

[Szakalot]

i am not going to pin any one on the platform i am going to blast each strog that is on the platform..think of it as a hammer.

if you can take out each strog every time i reload my RL, you dont need my strategy. not this strategy or the tank strategy, you own at this game.. as a matter of fact you can play only 3 players in your team against a team of 12..
you make quite bold assumptions with your killing abilities


one person per kill with the rocket launcher is one kill every 7 seconds of engagement. I believe i can take a person down with the smg faster than that. 7 seconds is like using 70 bullets from the GPMG for just one strogg, and to make it funnier your vulnerable while reloading.

[Crime-Master]

7 seconds is like using 70 bullets from the GPMG for just one strogg, and to make it funnier your vulnerable while reloading.

first of all, i am behind cover (the platform)

and explain me..how does your health replenishes itself after each kill?

(i just shoot a rocket, kill an enemy and disappear from view)

[Random Generator]

so killing a strogg, while he's sitting, not shooting back with a gpmg is hard how?

You said I won't pin down anyone well not going to. Sure I'm not great but if I stay in right place I can shoot 3-4 strogg as they wander in, change position repeat. IMHO a gpmg is more useful here, a RL should spam the balcony from crates. Just more efficient use of manpower.

[Szakalot]

first of all, i am behind cover (the platform)

and explain me..how does your health replenishes itself after each kill?

(i just shoot a rocket, kill an enemy and disappear from view)

i wont replenish health but :

i will change positions and thus an accidental death aint that much of a trouble, i can return to battle more easily, than you climbing up the ladder the whole way.

in a position so movement limiting as yours once your spotted your dead. Any nade can kill you there.

[Sgt.Smegma]

...I didn´t read through all the posts, but come on guys amnesty for all and let the war take place where it should... online on the battlefield. c-m tries to be a valuable player, don´t offend him anymore, to me it seems he learned his lesson to be polite. try do discuss his tactics without being so rude...okay? and c-m, yes ur tactics are interesting (sometimes) but c´mon there are sooooo many effective ways to claim the objectives (or defend them) that there can´t be only one uber-tactic!!!! don´t be static...be creative adapt situations and have some creativity in ur gameplay. every situation that comes twice gives the enemy the chance do develop an effective counter.

greets, Sgt.Smegma


PS: who´s fault is it when someone follows a wrong/ not so effective tactic... the one who writes it down here, or the one who isn´t able to think about it and blindly follows some written words driven by a lack of creativity?

Let´s try: best defense-tactic on area22´s last objective is to build a wall of mined huskys at the entrance of the tunnel. definitly no strogg can pass through.

[Szakalot]

he is far from polite, you obviously never played with the guy online, swearing whining n lots of caps. And i dont mean the fallout series currency.

[DugDanger]

I miss etqwlalala

[Random Generator]

I lagged a bit here, but this is the general idea of how I would defend. And I am JUST ok compared to others, a more experienced player would do way better.

http://www.filefactory.com/file/af4gh3a/n/GPMG_Defence_rar

[Crime-Master]

i can return to battle more easily, than you climbing up the ladder the whole way.y
your deployment can be 30 sec..how can you be so sure?

As i said..to throw the nade from the platform you will have to do it behind me..if you get on the platform i will fire at you. but again, few strog on a server would bother pushing through the gdf defenses and throwing their lame grenade that may not kill me at all.

and why are you so worried about the nade..you have the tank in the tunnel (2 engies and 1 medic) and the soldier with RL on the top. so if you play 12 vs 12.. you are left with 8 more GDF soldiers. And the key to wining is a good deployment of forces across the objective.


btw, you could put another RL soldier where the GDF base is, so that he will take any incoming strog vehicles.. a sniper with an outlook to the entrance where teh strog try to enter would kill the strogs with obliterators .. i dont even go in depth about what you could do with the rest of the players.

[Szakalot]

i dont disagree that the position is good. Its a nice placement, but limiting in its potential in comparison to what damage you could have dealt on the frontline, or defending the service door pathway.

So feel free to use that, it will probably prove good for the team.

As for deployment, i note myself everytime i die on 30 seconds, you cant allow that. Either /kill sooner, or fall back a little.

[Crime-Master]

n its potential in comparison to what damage you could have dealt on the frontline, or defending the service door pathway.

you ask random generator, what happened when we followed that thinking of yours

p.s.
what do you press to join members to your fireteam
how do you deploy that drone fixing devise, which the constructor has, that fixes turrets?

[GUNSL1NG3R]

p.s.

how do you deploy that drone fixing devise, which the constructor has, that fixes turrets?




the drone is an upgrade
when you get the upgrade, get close to something that needs repair (with the repair tool selected) you will get a lock-on sim to using a rocket launcher/obliterator. Once locked on release with right mouse button (default). stay relatively close until repair is complete.

[TS_SS]

okay C-M, I`ve read all of your tactics, strategies, whatever, and some of them are...useful, but this one really takes the fun out of the game. Where is the freakin SKILL you claim to have to use this one?

If you enjoy hiding - shoot a rocket - hide and yell "yohoo, I kill tons of guys, that have higher rank", then good for you, pet yourself on the back.

Kinda lost my train of though, but the main point - stop trying to prove you are the best. Cos you`re not. Dumbass.

[Shiv]

You sir are a genius. I am truly humbled by your technique and tenacity when it comes to discovering the next big thing to hit the QW meta-game!
i would have never of thought of hiding there with a rocket, i tend to just walk round as a medic and heal people!
such brilliance, such insurmountable ability the likes of which i have never before witnessed!
I will drop my ar next time i am on and pick up the rocket, i might get 10 kills!
Bless you.

1 thing tho, how does
your dynamic defense will end up in you being blasted from an obliterator. you wont pin anyone with your gpmg..the idea is to pop out in the last moment (when the strog is about to plant) and blast him to space

that work.. they can sit in the same spot as the rocket and do the exact same thing (pop out, get kill on planter and then hide) plus the advantage that your still ready to go for another.

[Teopeo]

SO MUCH HATRED FILLED ANTI-RAWKIT-WORDS :(


QFT :(

At least Shiv cheered me up.

[Crime-Master]

You sir are a genius. I am truly humbled by your technique and tenacity when it comes to discovering the next big thing to hit the QW meta-game!
well somethings are as simple as sitting waiting and striking..

[zaku212]

well somethings are as simple as sitting waiting and striking..

only to trip and fall to your death in a comedic fashion?,if you stay there
you can be:
(i) shot
(ii) greanaded by cooked nades,(which don't have to come from behind you)
(iii)backstabbed
(iV)flyer droned
(v)oblitherated
(vi)a good shot could get you with a plasma launcher
(Vii)icharus-ed(i know you have a RL,which i perfect for anti-ichy but they can still get you)
crime,you so funny

[unarmed]

hahahaahhahaahhahhaahhaahha


Second.

Why did anybody bother saying more?

Why wait for our resident bot-thrashing tool to get banned, just spam this thead with lolcats pictures now.

[maveldis]

come on unarmed
http://www.lolcats.com/images/u/08/41/lolcatsdotcomzkdbmt2s4enzvzkd.jpg
you know you want to

[unarmed]

come on unarmed
http://www.lolcats.com/images/u/08/41/lolcatsdotcomzkdbmt2s4enzvzkd.jpg
you know you want to

:D Brilliant malvedis. Is that c-m on the bottom?

[maveldis]

:D Brilliant malvedis. Is that c-m on the bottom?

hahahahaha no comment :D

[whiteaden]

hahahahaha no comment :D

seconded!!

[Chris]

A rocket with floating medic support near the mg nest works wonders against incoming icaruses in 6v6.

[Szakalot]

it doesnt really matter where you put it, no isolated position is good, any place could work with well distributed teammates. Service door entrance, the tunnel, red room or the 'devastating position' Crime 'discovered'.

[Senethro]

guys he averages 11 kills per game, I think he knows what hes talking about

[Seraphic_Mercenary]

guys he averages 11 kills per game, I think he knows what hes talking about

:O :eek: :O

....he cant even have time to get to the devastating postitions with all that killing

[Basiley]

RL also helpful to clear stroggs, stacking on balcony , over slipgate.
perfectly from position OVER slipgate[carefully walk to them].
but best weapon for ambush from BEHIND[not so perfect position, as balcony itself, for example] is GPMG, not RL.
strictly IMO.

[zaku212]

:O :eek: :O

....he cant even have time to get to the devastating postitions with all that killing

this coming from the guy,who beleives killing only 50 is a bad game :P(you can be very scary)

[Seraphic_Mercenary]

this coming from the guy,who beleives killing only 50 is a bad game :P(you can be very scary)

lol! i dont mean to be :p

p.s RaWr

[Basiley]

other devastating tech is:
join team and start devastating ;P

[bullrage]

really nice strategy, i gonna use it.