Disarming guide for noobs

[Crime-Master]

anyone who is a noob or newbie..
if a bomb was planted and you are not an engineer, focus on taking out the enemies that are coming the way you used to (but do that at the sphere of the objective)
This is what you shouldnt do:
1) not run to help and stand in some strange position:dance:
2) follow the engineer like gay and stand near the objective when there are no enemies nearby:confused:
3) stare at how the engineer disarms the explosives:infiltrator:

you will repeat the mistakes mentioned above, try to evade your nubidity on the battlefield:O

[whiteaden]

1. if the 'strange position is a meat shield (e.g. from railgun fire on Quarry) PLEASE DO! meat shields are VERY important on GDF as you don't have tac-shields

2. see 1.
3. see 1.

yes, killing the opponents is your main priority, but if you have 5 teammates doing the same and there's sniperfire coming in.. BE A MEATSHIELD!! it's saved so many disarms on Quarry... :D

[Crime-Master]

i am not a great believer of meat shield. 40% of my plants are using a vehicle as a shield.. works well.
The only mission where meat shield is useful is Quarry, where many GDFs stand in the ship fire and block the way. it is like Rugby..fun

[whiteaden]

i am not a great believer of meat shield. 40% of my plants are using a vehicle as a shield.. works well.
The only mission where meat shield is useful is Quarry, where many GDFs stand in the ship fire and block the way. it is like Rugby..fun

wtf, we're talking about a plant/disarm RIGHT?! the ship isn't a 'plant' it's a deliver objective... lulz.. I'm talking about the 1st objective, the generator.. oh and vehicles = Rawkitfood!.. and I often play rocketlauncher on Quarry GDF.. as no1 seems to know that's a MUST during the first phase... (less during 2nd phase, due to more vehicles..)

[Szakalot]

1st and 2st is so inspecific that it doesnt really constitute for a point. The 3rd one is very true though, its rare that i agree with you on something, but i do this time.
Since your giving disarming tools its worth mentioning that preselecting it is a better way, and if you wanna go engineer you ought to exploit it. Seriously, using that 'press use to do everything' is totally irresponsible, if your playing for the team win, after the first 2 ETQW gameplay hours.

[appleseed]

any generator obj, block the view with the titan, be sure to be in the right way (you drop of vehicles by the left side) and disarm quietly, we full holded quarry 1st obj like that a few days ago vs a not that bad strogg teams...

I stilml lol at CM talking ppl about noobystyle... you sir are a noob, get over yourself!

peace

[Szakalot]

any generator obj, block the view with the titan, be sure to be in the right way (you drop of vehicles by the left side) and disarm quietly, we full holded quarry 1st obj like that a few days ago vs a not that bad strogg teams...


you cant fullhold quarry first obj against 'not that bad' strogg team. If you do, it means the teams are stacked.
One titan coverage tactic wont protect the plant from grenades, violators, tormentor spam, anything; and the titan takes too long to be a repeatable tactic once its destroyed.
Quarry generator is one of the easiest objectives in this game, place 2/3 obliterators on the high ground in front and you can clear that place from any gdf in 30 seconds.

[sakhmet]

A couple of things on this…

If they have just planted and you are at the objective, check your radar and see what enemies are around you. You are better off helping to clear the area of enemies for a few moments before you start to disarm. Don’t clear with grenades you will wipe out your own team (this happened again tonight on refinery, its retarded).

When you start to disarm, stand to one side and crouch so that another engineer can get in and assist you. You don’t have to watch what you are doing while disarming, so again check the radar.

If it is just you, and several enemies are approaching and you are a crappy shooter like me, just disarm until they kill you. Someone else may be able to finish what you started, and you are taking precious seconds off the clock.

[ED209]

I am a believer in the Meatshield... my job is to intercept those rounds destined for the engie... a titan would be better...

Usually I chuck down some meds for the engie and then face outwards to scan for threats

[appleseed]

you cant fullhold quarry first obj against 'not that bad' strogg team. If you do, it means the teams are stacked.
One titan coverage tactic wont protect the plant from grenades, violators, tormentor spam, anything; and the titan takes too long to be a repeatable tactic once its destroyed.
Quarry generator is one of the easiest objectives in this game, place 2/3 obliterators on the high ground in front and you can clear that place from any gdf in 30 seconds.

truely szak, it wasnt stacked, by "not that bad" I meant a team not full of naabtubes (the best stroggs tax in quarry anyway) I was engi in titan, cleared the direct opponent (opressors/oblit) and then cover myself with the titan each time, then I just repaired my tank.... it was just easy, quarry is a really easy map for gdf if they know what to do, we get poont in ark and salvage tho... but in my view quarry is really an easy map with some good rocketnaab and 2 vehicles whores... You almost havent any direct opponent in titan at first obj, according your team hold them by the time you bring the titan in, OFC vs good desi you are down... but I usually stay at the place where everyone put an APT, behind the big silos, and it allways worked well... anyway I still launch you , go @ #biatch.etqw, we need ya to sub @ CB!

peace

peace

[Basiley]

I am a believer in the Meatshield... my job is to intercept those rounds destined for the engie... a titan would be better...

Usually I chuck down some meds for the engie and then face outwards to scan for threats

its another job.
called "Armourshield"
sadly, you can't park you titan on 1st obj on Area22.
but "S&D" can be helpful, itself.

[appleseed]

you cant fullhold quarry first obj against 'not that bad' strogg team. If you do, it means the teams are stacked.
One titan coverage tactic wont protect the plant from grenades, violators, tormentor spam, anything; and the titan takes too long to be a repeatable tactic once its destroyed.
Quarry generator is one of the easiest objectives in this game, place 2/3 obliterators on the high ground in front and you can clear that place from any gdf in 30 seconds.

BTW I requote for the truth, you allways babbled about teamwork, your argument meant that the strogg teams is perfectly timed... and its never the case in pub neeway, so my "tax" is still valid, even if its a cheap one, and I agree on this, vs comp playa I should get poonts in 30 sec!

peacr

[SuperHappyCow]

Stop Disarming A Bomb If It's Not Making The Orange Bar Move, And Don't Stand In Front Of The Bomb If You're Gdf, And Your Team Is Trying To Help You Friggin Disarm.

[Szakalot]

BTW I requote for the truth, you allways babbled about teamwork, your argument meant that the strogg teams is perfectly timed... and its never the case in pub neeway, so my "tax" is still valid, even if its a cheap one, and I agree on this, vs comp playa I should get poonts in 30 sec!

peacr

bring a tormentor in

That silo place is just lovely for disables. Your disabled there, your dead. Your not disabled yet, ill come and kill it.
You cant counter a tormentor thats coming every 15 seconds at you. It only takes 5-6 seconds to kill a 60-70% titan (6 seconds is 3 strockets + shitload of plasma, thats circa 80-90% of Titan hp, but i do take into account that some of this will miss).

You wont be able to counter that even with teamworking rocket launchers, at least not on a regular basis. And once its down, it will never come back.

If the strogg team didnt have 'all noobs' than it only means that your team had a lot, a lot of good players.

It was stacked either way, first objective fullholds = stack, and when you think that its quarry...

[whiteaden]

bring a tormentor in

That silo place is just lovely for disables. Your disabled there, your dead. Your not disabled yet, ill come and kill it.
You cant counter a tormentor thats coming every 15 seconds at you. It only takes 5-6 seconds to kill a 60-70% titan (6 seconds is 3 strockets + shitload of plasma, thats circa 80-90% of Titan hp, but i do take into account that some of this will miss).

You wont be able to counter that even with teamworking rocket launchers, at least not on a regular basis. And once its down, it will never come back.

If the strogg team didnt have 'all noobs' than it only means that your team had a lot, a lot of good players.

It was stacked either way, first objective fullholds = stack, and when you think that its quarry...

if you're there, and you're shooting @ the titan, I'll have my rocketlauncher on you, if you're close, I'll lock in, if you ain't, I'll dumbfire :D or I'll just shoot you with a GPMG or w/e I have available :D

flyers die quick from ordinary fire... :)

[Szakalot]

Stop Disarming A Bomb If It's Not Making The Orange Bar Move, And Don't Stand In Front Of The Bomb If You're Gdf, And Your Team Is Trying To Help You Friggin Disarm.


not always :


when the bombs were planted within a few seconds time window
when you expect enemies to come by and kill you, if you have enough time you can disarm the second one earlier, so that you'll get a 'free (safe)' disarm. It could be so that you manage to disarm the first charge, but die and the second one blows up. Its all dependant on the situation, the time between the charges, the area control, your skill&hp, are there another engineers around...etc.

Bottom line :

depends

[Szakalot]

if you're there, and you're shooting @ the titan, I'll have my rocketlauncher on you, if you're close, I'll lock in, if you ain't, I'll dumbfire :D or I'll just shoot you with a GPMG or w/e I have available :D

flyers die quick from ordinary fire... :)

not quick enough. With 2 tormentors i can keep coming back, if i time it well ill be back in less than 10 seconds. You will barely have the time to reload the rocket launcher.

I can come from different angles, and if its really bad ill just snipe the place from 300m afar, for the silo place the area over the 2nd energy cell is a good sniping example.

Bringing a titan in is obviously a good tactic but he only survived because his teammates kept strogg at bay when he was damaged&repairing. This is simply not a position for a titan to hold for long.

[whiteaden]

not quick enough. With 2 tormentors i can keep coming back, if i time it well ill be back in less than 10 seconds. You will barely have the time to reload the rocket launcher.

I can come from different angles, and if its really bad ill just snipe the place from 300m afar, for the silo place the area over the 2nd energy cell is a good sniping example.

Bringing a titan in is obviously a good tactic but he only survived because his teammates kept strogg at bay when he was damaged&repairing. This is simply not a position for a titan to hold for long.

then again, if the GDF have a flyer aswel, they could/should bring in an anansi to help defend :) I barely ever see that tactic applied though.. (Strogg usually have tons of HB's & only 1 or 2 Oblits)

[Random Generator]

It takes full 100 GPMG bullets to bring down a tormentor AT CLOSE RANGE :) So... Bring in the nubetube :D

Also, if you are strogg who is disarming, ask for shields around you. Sure, there are cases when they actually help the GDF, but 90% of the time they can save your life without using teammates as meatshields.

Also, for noobs, take time to read up on special "Invisible" plant spots, like one on the Ark bioscanner, cos being an engineer wont help you if you dont know where its planted :D


Also, @ Crime, completely off-subject, but.... ~Force~ Clan is 3/4 dead, sry to inform.

[Szakalot]

It takes full 100 GPMG bullets to bring down a tormentor AT CLOSE RANGE :) So... Bring in the nubetube :D


where did you get that data from? is that some kind of a joke?:p
in any case 100 GPMG bullets is 2,5k damage. And tormentor has 1,2 k HP.

[Random Generator]

No, as a matter of fact I stood and unloaded the entire clip into tormentor :p I dunno, like Iwasnt point blank, maybe the damage is lowered with distance, the range was bout 50-75 metres.

[Szakalot]

perhaps you didnt bother to use the ironsights?:p
the damage isnt lowered before 50m or sth like that, at 75 you should be dealing around 70% of normal damage output.

[Crime-Master]

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Stop Disarming A Bomb If It's Not Making The Orange Bar Move, And Don't Stand In Front Of The Bomb If You're Gdf, And Your Team Is Trying To Help You Friggin Disarm.


you are one doped cow on anabolic steriods and coco cereals




back to the topic. i dont know if a tank helps.. on the quarry it really doesnt provide any shield cause the strog takes upper position.. a team that has got a brain would time the plant and the airstrike.. so that way there is no chance..by the time the artillery finishes the strogs would cluster behind the generator.

[Random Generator]

I did use iron sights :p I dunno, its a rough estimate. Maybe a couple of bullets went to the side, or somtn, I just remember kerploding the thing when I reached 0 bullets :D

[zaku212]

or a great thing for disarming is when the strogg don't clear any opp sheilds on the generators,
and for disarm all you need is one engie and a pair o rambo meds :P

[kwisatz_haderach]

As CM "guide" is one of the most useless thread i have ever seen in any forum i'll go on the conversation about Quarry.

you cant fullhold quarry first obj against 'not that bad' strogg team. If you do, it means the teams are stacked.
One titan coverage tactic wont protect the plant from grenades, violators, tormentor spam, anything; and the titan takes too long to be a repeatable tactic once its destroyed.
Quarry generator is one of the easiest objectives in this game, place 2/3 obliterators on the high ground in front and you can clear that place from any gdf in 30 seconds.

I dare to disagree here. Not about the fact that Quarry 1st objective is one of the easiest but on the word stacked here. That would mean that any team that win is a stacked team and i think it is non-sense.
I also had some of those games kinda really well balanced but that after 20 minutes still at 1st objective.

And after a 2nd thought, Quarry 1st objective is not that easy, your Oblitarator thing can be countered with 1 Covert Ops with Parkinson's disease (yeah i know you can counter snipe, and then GDF will have to counter counter snipe, etc...).
The Tormentor can take out Titan and infantry but there are also 2 Anansi GDF side.
Actualy, i tend to think now that GDF has a big advantage if they can hold the objective for 1 minute with one player down, just the time that one player brings the Titan at 1st objective. Titan being THE heavy vehicle in ETQW... and Strogg don't have any heavy vehicle for that objective.

I also love to play Quarry as a RL cause the strogg have soo many light vehicles that nobody will plant/deliver cells running. They'll all take an Icarus/Hog that goes boom...

[Szakalot]

I dare to disagree here. Not about the fact that Quarry 1st objective is one of the easiest but on the word stacked here. That would mean that any team that win is a stacked team and i think it is non-sense.
I also had some of those games kinda really well balanced but that after 20 minutes still at 1st objective.

Well that depends on how we define balanced. I define it based on how close the game is, for example a last 1-2 min win is a balanced game for me (overall, some parts could have been unbalanced because teams change dynamically on pubs), following that trail of thought i cant call a 1st objective full hold balanced.


That would mean that any team that win is a stacked team and i think it is non-sense.

This is a bad conclusion you draw from my post, i never said that. A game has to be won by one of the teams, and games can still be balanced, as i mentioned before; hence its your example that is nonsense, in relation to what we are talking about.

Even with the best anansi against a tormentor,i can just skip them and kamikaze the titan. Since tormentor is the fastest vehicle in the game, i dont think 2 anansi's of my skill level would be able to stop me on a constant basis.
And you only need to take the titan out once, its very vulnerable when trying to come back.

There are parts of the hill above the generator that are hidden from most of the gdf sniping positions. This objective usually falls down in 2-3 minutes, matched in my book only by the salvage and valley 1st phase.

Do note that i can only measure it by my experience, and i never lose quarry when im strogg (provided i started from the beginning). Its not that im insanely skilled, its that the first one is easy, once planted i can snipe it with the torm from afar preventing any kind of defuse, and the next objective is just tormentor diving 3 times. I only go gdf when there is some good tormentor pilot, or when im playing with some friends.

1st objectives are made easy anyways, and i believe the game wasnt designed for 'balanced 1st phase fullholds' - why would they make another 3 objectives?

So a game can be balanced even though the attackers would need 4 times as much time to win? 80 minutes that is? (20min or each objective... or more)

[Crime-Master]

As CM "guide" is one of the most useless thread i have ever seen in any forum i'll go on the conversation about Quarry.



a very strong opening sentence, champ..(or perhaps, chimp)

[Minty]

Press 5 if your engineer and hold your crosshair over the bomb

[zaku212]

Press 5 if your engineer and hold your crosshair over the bomb

or if you're crime-master stand around and bitch for someone else to do it:p

[Crime-Master]

well your stats are lower than mine, so bitching about your gameplay isnt something that is illegitimate.
and dont tell me that you dont do what number 3 says

[zaku212]

yeah,watching the engie disarm is so much fun especially if he has a fine ass like yours crime :P

[Crime-Master]

you beat yourself off when you watch an engie disarming..i will catch u staring at the engie and i will do some recording of you standing there like a statue

[zaku212]

you beat yourself off when you watch an engie disarming..i will catch u staring at the engie and i will do some recording of you standing there like a statue
yeah,i'll do a recording of you next time you stick your e-peen into the ear of some newguy posting,so i can just laugh at it again,again,again,again, and again.
the only reson i'd even be near the disarm is if theres something to kill,or some reviving needed,otherwise i'll be around killing/being killed holding the enemy away from the obj,specially the ones you miss with your meagre titan skills.and i'll be there just in time to see you being rammed by a hog and to procede to laugh my ass off.

[maveldis]

*prepares to lay down thick sarcasim*

right and crime master has once again enlightened us all the uber epic strats of QW, oh thank you crime-master, thank you, what would we do without your epic strats?! maybe win?

*end of sarcasim*

ps. stop posting strat that are f'in stupid, your stats dont matter as to what kind of player u are, you prolly whore all day everyday and only focus on your stats instead of the team.

p.s.s. go eat some hummas and STFU

[Random Generator]

Stats =/= Better player

XP=/= experience

More experienced =/= better player

Stats = shit

Better player = adaptable player/teamworking player

Point clear?

[Basiley]

Stats =/= Better player

XP=/= experience

More experienced =/= better player

Stats = shit

Better player = adaptable player/teamworking player

Point clear?

random generator=/=point cleat.
according to Webster.

p.s.
just kidding.

[whiteaden]

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says the "RANDOM GENERATOR"

oh, I think, (if I understood basiley's post) that Basiley beat me to this :)

[Crime-Master]

you idiots. all you talk about is my stats..when i adopt your stupidity, you blame me.. make up your f mind


if you look at whiteaden stats on the engineer and everything to do with it (e.g. turrets), you should understand that he is the expert between us.. all talk and no results

[zaku212]

you idiots. all you talk about is my stats..when i adopt your stupidity, you blame me.. make up your f mind


if you look at whiteaden stats on the engineer and everything to do with it (e.g. turrets), you should understand that he is the expert between us.. all talk and no results

why do you edit this post,did it involve a lot of a strenuous thinking,and you had to do it bit by bit,or did you change your mind on what you're talking about again??
all i can say is please keep it up,in this sad little world we all need to laugh at something,so we've chosen you,you supply us with the same brand of comedy time and time again.

[tomaterr]

On a side note, If you're GDF, and there's more than two other engies ready to disarm, don't be afraid to lemming it. Many times, i've seen engies stand by, waiting for the area to be cleared, as the charge keeps on ticking. Every little bit helps. Obviously, if a violator is sweeping across the generator, don't run into its beam o' death, just wait until it passes, then go. Waiting to disarm only increases the other teams chances of winning the objective.

[sakhmet]

On a side note, If you're GDF, and there's more than two other engies ready to disarm, don't be afraid to lemming it. Many times, i've seen engies stand by, waiting for the area to be cleared, as the charge keeps on ticking. Every little bit helps. Obviously, if a violator is sweeping across the generator, don't run into its beam o' death, just wait until it passes, then go. Waiting to disarm only increases the other teams chances of winning the objective.

Good! Also, communicate!

If you know which one was first for instance, call it out, or if you saw someone plant a charge in a hard to reach or hidden spot, or you think there is a second charge on the back of the gate and you can only finish one side. Just don’t talk all the time for no good reason!

And when you hear that a charge has been planted and you are not an Engineer, run to the vicinity and support your team. Just abandon that deployable you were trying to disable, and stop sniping people in the back field. The support you provide by taking down a deployable won’t make up for your team giving up an objective, and when you move to the next objective that deployable probably becomes ineffective anyway.

[Kal_Torak]

quarry is a really easy map for gdf if they know what to do [...] but in my view quarry is really an easy map with some good rocketnaab and 2 vehicles whores... Y


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In the last 8 months I've been playing Quarry as strogg, I've only lost it once. And that once was due to a crapton of stupid noobs who wouldn't listen and suicided in icarus getting the last cell get locked down mid valley.

So yeah. You sir, are a noob.

Quarry is one of the most impossible maps for GDF in the whole game. Ask any pro that actually has played it.

[Random Generator]

Tbh, its an all right map if you play as a team. Holding first objective isnt Easy, but if its a team of players not whores, it can be manageable. And energy cell #3 is an invitation for campers :) you can deploy turrets, its closer to Gdf base, its inside a building, if done right it can be held.

But yes, quarry is strogg centred. Out of several hundred games I only lost two or three. But then again when I played GDF here with a clan, I would call the win/loss around 4/1.

[appleseed]

Is it mister "I stack the strogg like hell, and ragequit when strogg team isnt good enuf?" talking?

I just want to say... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA


In the last 8 months I've been playing Quarry as strogg, I've only lost it once. And that once was due to a crapton of stupid noobs who wouldn't listen and suicided in icarus getting the last cell get locked down mid valley.

So yeah. You sir, are a noob.

Quarry is one of the most impossible maps for GDF in the whole game. Ask any pro that actually has played it.

You must be uber mega leet then... One loss in 8 monthes? god dammit, ty for enlighting my day... Play vs 2 coordinated rocket boys and at least one good anansi pilot and you'll see its not that easy for stroggs...

Plus you should tell me where you play cuz when stroggs arent uber stacked on quarry (which almost never happen anyway) I often see gdf hold! And I dont have to ask proplayer as they dont play quarry, plus pro tax arent really the same as pub tax are they?

well, b4 opening ya big bad mouth stop the quarry stack uber leet strategy and you'll see its a more interesting map which can be intense, good for sniping and flying and really entertaining.

peace

[Szakalot]

any map can be lost for strogg if gdf are stacked. But of all games played i suppose the statistic would be around 85-90% of wins for stroggies, and thats an enormous difference.

[Random Generator]

you idiots. all you talk about is my stats..when i adopt your stupidity, you blame me.. make up your f mind


if you look at whiteaden stats on the engineer and everything to do with it (e.g. turrets), you should understand that he is the expert between us.. all talk and no results



Ummm, YOU talk about stats, we say that they are not important. And, haha, we dont post any stupidity to adopt :p

So why do whites engie stats matter? Would his deployables become stronger or less likely to be destroyed if he had a better stat? No.

Would yours? Still no.

Repeating this for yet another time, stats dont matter. Especially considering deployable XP comes from how often its used, not skill with it.

[Szakalot]

well, w/l & k/d ratios can give you a hint at a person's performance.

[Seraphic_Mercenary]

I dont know what all this talk about quarry being hard to defend is about, 2 competent players are all thats needed, me and a clanmate used to go sniper on quarry first obj, on the right of the generator on the hill bit, you can kill anyone comming up that way and countersnipe them at their base, and the other can help and watch the obj, slap a 3rd eye down and your sorted.

I know your guna say a tormentor could take us down, but really if he hasnt been taken down by avt or rl or anasie by then, then your team must be pretty much afk lol. Also tormys cant really see you if you go under the shelter bit which means they will have had to be informed of your whereabouts previously and communication on pubs are rare.

Also if found just going gpmg and staying near the obj, using the buildings as cover and having supply crates near means you can stop them from planting while your alive, which surprisingly iv found to be a pretty long time, unless you get unlucky and a vio spawns on you. Also as a gpmg, you can take out pretty much anything, own hypers and techs at close range, lie down for 0 spread and take out the snipers on the hill to the left......if you have an ait down your sorted.

All this talk of titans.....i have never found the titan to be of any use on the first obj.....mainly due to the abundance of tormentors and plasma mortars and oblits on that map. And there isnt really a solid place to tank, that doesnt have severe dissadvantages e.g no room to manuver or a cliff that any oblits who want to kill you can hide behind.

Anasies on this map work wonders tho, if you have 2 anasies and a sniper (or 2) then your pretty much set for the map, oblits dont last long with the snipers and inf dont last long with anasie....and snipers (sniper ftw)

The only problem i ever encounter when playing quarry as gdf is my own teams stupidity, and it really annoys me more that most other things on this game, the fact that players nowadays refuse to just "check" the objective every now and again, which is soooo annoying, as we could have a solid defence up the if i die or respawn for ammo (since i always check obj) and a soldier jumps from the tower and starts planting, no one on my team, even if we have 5 people stationed around the objective, will actually turn to look at the thing and see if someones snuck past them. This usually leads them planting and first obj being lost......due to the ridiculousness of the map that means that it is near impossible to disarm if the other team is competent, as there are so many nooks and crannys and hills that if even 1 oblit went on and fired from, would prevent the disarm.

But even then the cell obj is easy to defend as long as you have a half decent anasie pilot and a sniper.....

Sniper takes out oblits and inf and icarai, anasie takes out tormy (anasie should always beat tormy in a dogfight) (yes i know people are going to say "what if the anasie is a noob and tormy is a pro".....well then tbh your ****ed, grab a rocket launcher and hope for the best?)

But if they are equal skill or....you get 2 anasies to double team the tormys, then you should be ok, as your team should be conpitent enough to defend the ship from hogs, inf and icarai. As long as the anasies keep the tormentors from dropping in the cells, as that is very hard to counter.
Tbh even if the tormy driver is 1337 and your a nub flyer....just hide behind a mountain or dont get in untill they have got out to take the cell, then destroy the tormy.....prevents the drop and they have to try and run it....which wont happen if you have a sniper. Oh and have an engie put trip mines in ship.....just in case everything goes to shit.

Thats about it really.
On the topic of stats, generally they dont matter, but i tend to have a look at a players kills per minute and accuracy with specific weapons, as well as their k/d.
Dont really take any notice of the w/l if honest.

And that my friends is pretty much the longest post iv done on these forums ever :)

[Random Generator]

By "dont matter" I didnt mean "totally useless" :D

K/d, kpm with weapons, vehicle prefs and time played all make a general picture. But you really can't base arguements on those, saying whos better whos worse.

[murka10]

you idiots. all you talk about is my stats..when i adopt your stupidity, you blame me.. make up your f mind


if you look at whiteaden stats on the engineer and everything to do with it (e.g. turrets), you should understand that he is the expert between us.. all talk and no results

First you hate the guy who judges you by stats and then you judge other ppl by stats.
I do wish you will be enlightened some day.

[Teopeo]

What's that Sarcasim you're talking about?

[sparrowhead]

What's that Sarcasim you're talking about?

Actually it's being spelled "SarcoSim". It's a new add-on for Sims 2 that allows you to run for president and date a bunch of neat Starlets :p

[Kal_Torak]

So you think in 8 months and a couple hundred times I haven't played some extremely good teams? I've met the rocket boys, and the double anansi pilots. Still won. I've met the tank campers on first, backed with turrets, elite engies on second.
Still won. Probably the hardest defense for me to beat is having two elite anansi pilots flying at the same time. I generally grab an oblit, and I can at least make them move off just far enough to grab the cells and run a drop.
A really good tanker camping the front of the ship is also one of the best defenses against torm drop. [only works if you botch the torm drop though] I've only seen that maybe three times though, ever.

Also, it looks like you're telling me to stop winning the map and start losing and that will make it a more interesting map? I almost snorted coffee through my nose at that one. :D :D Sounds suspiciously like a plea for mercy. :dance: :dance: :dance:

Anyway. People know I win Quarry, so they like to join me. Ain't my fault teams get stacked sometimes ^_^


You must be uber mega leet then... One loss in 8 monthes? god dammit, ty for enlighting my day... Play vs 2 coordinated rocket boys and at least one good anansi pilot and you'll see its not that easy for stroggs...

Plus you should tell me where you play cuz when stroggs arent uber stacked on quarry (which almost never happen anyway) I often see gdf hold! And I dont have to ask proplayer as they dont play quarry, plus pro tax arent really the same as pub tax are they?

well, b4 opening ya big bad mouth stop the quarry stack uber leet strategy and you'll see its a more interesting map which can be intense, good for sniping and flying and really entertaining.

peace

[BioSnark]

Will my mental acuity drop if I read this thread repeatedly?

[Szakalot]

of course you can.
Will someone with 0.000000000000001 k/d ratio look like a good player to you, even compared with C-M?

Things get tricky when the difference is smaller than 0,5; that could be affected by the player's playing style, but i can tell that someone with a k/d lower than one, compared to someone with k/d bigger than two is just a weak shot.

[Random Generator]

Ok, I forgot to add "within reasonable limits" :p

And yes, u r right, you can make certain statements, but they arent necessarily true. Actually, only low results are somewhat conclusive, the good results always have the question "pro or whore? Eagle eye or aimbot?" attached. You only get general idea, and even then the only way to know for sure is to play against them.

[Crime-Master]

someone with a k/d lower than one, compared to someone with k/d bigger than two is just a weak shot.
kill death ratio doesnt mean much. you saw me completing objectives and no , there werent always people to clear the way for me.
and also i play on servers with players who have ping below 100 , while i have ping above 150.so shut up and think before you post
i kill as much as needed. the game is much more about than killing.but you are too narrow minded to realize that

[murka10]

Well, everything you need to do in this game is achievable by killing.
If you lemming towards an obj w/o killing anyone... but if the whole team does it, i wont even bother to kill them the regular ways.

But if you kill a guy or two while doing obj(read:defending yourself), you can win and call urself a one-man team(well, you can't).

[Random Generator]

Actually, k/d is as much about survival skills as shooting :D

Oh? You kill as much as you need? Somehow what I saw was "nearly not enough" :D

If you do missions on your own, you pretty much need to shoot unless its MCP driving. If you do them without shooting, then theres a team to help you. Or u play against noobs who dont know what to do.

Put it this way, make a demo of how u play against a real team, where you "kill as much as you need".

Oh and 100-150 ping is moderate and playable, lower graphical settings and quit whining.

[Crime-Master]

there is a way to kill a lot without style or much accuracy.
easiest way you pick up a vehicle and go to areas where you kill a lot (objective or spawn areas), grenade launcher can guarantee you many kills. hyperblaster can give you a decent number of kills. On some levels that require a defensive role, what i do is i throw many med packs near me..shoot at every incoming enemy..if i am injured , i step fast to the area of the medpacks and kill the enemy. so the enemy almost doesnt have a chance. i repeat the same process with the other enemies. it works well at the last mission on the salvage map.

if you want to take another example, where it is possible to generate many kills is the valley (the demo map that everyone knows about). when the mcp lands, throw a marker that will generate a violator, this should disable the mcp, respawn as constructor.. go to the tunnel's entrance , deply AIT neary by..when mcp comes disable it and kill everyone who tries to approach the mcp. on the next objective there is an area where you can camp and kill every covert ops that tries to hack. after that mission, you can play as oppressor or constructor... use a vehicle or just try to stop the gdf at the entrance to the building. This would guarantee you a decent number of kills.

but this killing importance is only specific to the level. on other missions it might be important to sneak in or destroy turrets or play as a medic and stay a bit behind, heal your team mates or in strogs case create spawn hosts. camping can also lead to objective fulfillment.

so whenever szak starts to preach you about how important the kill/death ratio , take it with a pinch of salt..cause it is garbage, and he saw me ingame completing many of the objectives at top speed against various type of players

[Random Generator]

No, no, no. I didnt ask for a lecture on how to kill. I asked for a demo of you doing that. In theory yes, thats how you do it, in practice, I havent seen you do that. You get shot one of the first if you run in, the only time you completed objectives (inside at least) when someone clears way for you. Your driving leaves a lot to be desired, not even gonna say about shooting, so show everyone you accused of whoring with a hyperblaster (which ironically yields better results) howYOU would do it, and then we'll compare which method is more effective.

[Crime-Master]

first of all, i do it. the last thing that i need is your approval.
second, i might do it when youtube will enable me uploading videos. i cant upload any of my other stuff that i planned to. you can join the spectate mode and inform me when you are online..and i will show you how i do what i said above, no problem.

[zaku212]

EVERY map i've seen you in,all you do is peg it towards the objective,die,die and die again, then bitch at your team,you get the ob,then in the review you go "i got most obs" so is this from you being a titan camper,or a really badly construed rambo medic??

[Random Generator]

Why bother? Hit F12, it will record a demo of the game as u see it, its like 4-5mb in size, saved in my documents/id software/quake wars/demos. You dont even need to run a recorder in background, upload the thing and throw me a link.

Im not giving out approvals, Im saying that what you say about ur skills is BS unless you can prove it. If you insult ppl, prepare to prove your point.

[Szakalot]

first of all, i do it. the last thing that i need is your approval.
second, i might do it when youtube will enable me uploading videos. i cant upload any of my other stuff that i planned to. you can join the spectate mode and inform me when you are online..and i will show you how i do what i said above, no problem.

feel free to upload a raw replay file to rapidshare or whatever. It doesnt have to be edited to make us laugh, we can always speed-up the parts where you run from the spawn with your rocket launcher drawn; which would probably be 70% of the video time.

[Crime-Master]

what do you mean die, die and die. if i camp you die more than me. it is funny how you portray yourself as rambo. if you arent medic you cant cure yourself, so if the players are good, you might kill 1 and injure another one. but you probably think of yourself as someone who kills 5 people and then die.. keep living in a fantasy. and when we played i was the infiltrator sniping behind the slipgate..so i was doing more important things than you did?!? and if i was sniping how could i die more than you?!?

a nice summary of me being "dying, dying and dying" , but my rank and achievements tell a different story compare to yours, dont they?

[Random Generator]

No they dont, they tell us youre a stat whore if you use your "achievments" as an arguement. Youve played about 2/3 of time I played, yet my kill count is twice yours. What does that tell us? :p

And once again, replay will tell us whose doing dying and how much.

[murka10]

Crime, do go online and i'll make that demo for you. Just pick a server, ill follow you. Do that right now or tell me when you got time.

[Crime-Master]

i play every day in the evenings. but tell me when you are recording cause sometimes i dont play seriously (like flying in a bumblebee..lol)

[Kal_Torak]

sometimes i dont play seriously (like flying in a bumblebee)

...Let me introduce you to BioSnark.

[whiteaden]

...Let me introduce you to BioSnark.

indeed.. damnit.. :(

[zaku212]

what do you mean die, die and die. if i camp you die more than me. it is funny how you portray yourself as rambo. if you arent medic you cant cure yourself, so if the players are good, you might kill 1 and injure another one. but you probably think of yourself as someone who kills 5 people and then die.. keep living in a fantasy. and when we played i was the infiltrator sniping behind the slipgate..so i was doing more important things than you did?!? and if i was sniping how could i die more than you?!?

a nice summary of me being "dying, dying and dying" , but my rank and achievements tell a different story compare to yours, dont they?

so? i wish you'd make up your mind are you:
mr.snipes-for-personal-glory/or mr.objectives?
are you: mr.rank-and-xp-don't-matter /or mr.shut-up-cos-i-has-rank?
i-help-the-team or team-are-all-noobs?
newflash!!(whoosh) it's pretty damn easy to pick people off,by shooting em in the back,but i'm no rambo medic,i'm there to help the team,heal em,and scrape em off the ground,support em,and hinder the enemy.
i judge a good life not by how many i kil,but how many i get to help get back in the game.

[Seraphic_Mercenary]

...im a rambo medic

[Teopeo]

This threads needs a rambo medic lecture from Tanzverbot.
Someone go get him, I have to play SarcoSim (he, already married Carla Bruni!).

[Don Zardeone]

I'm a rambo medic too. But I keep running out of ammo :(


Don't bash CM too much, at least he tries X.x

(pls don't take my bumblebee to goof around in)

[Szakalot]

Don't bash CM too much, at least he tries X.x

you meant :tries to insult us, right?

Its funny that he is even more abusive online, perhaps the ban spree he got made him a 'little' more catious.

[Crime-Master]

i am rambo engie

and being abusive online is alright

[Szakalot]

i am rambo engie

rambo means you kill. Running with pliers out =/ being rambo engy


and being abusive online is alright

thats some funny approach there.

[Crime-Master]

i am doing well, i am going to get my second engie medal ( i reached 100%) and my kill per deployment isnt bad. my mining skills are decent,,that i picked up from cod5


edit: cause every post of yours relates to me and my kill rate, i want to say that i dont play etqw for its killings. i consider etqw quite buggy and its shooting mechanism far from perfect..it needs to be patched. lets play cod5 or graw where one kill one shot. the shooting in etqw is soft compare to other games that i play online..

[Random Generator]

Oh, sure blame the game, the system and whatever else comes to mind :D

[Random Generator]

It seems that those hours did not do much good then.

Its just funny that first you state you can shoot, then actually go on to describe how the system sucks, and compare it to other games. That still proves our point that you cant shoot here.

Still waiting on the demo, got my popcorn ready too :)

[Random Generator]

i am rambo engie

and being abusive online is alright




That just shows that youll remain a noob no matter what rank, k/d or experience.

[appleseed]

no. i said i dont care about the kills. completing the objective is important.
i like the game. and if you remember when i first joined this forum i had 100 and something hours (it was 3 months ago). now i have over 300 hours. so shut up

If one day my son speak like tht, I guess I'll bash his head like hell

[BioSnark]

This thread seems to have gone from a rant to a pissing match. Maybe it's time for us to abandon it in a corner and throw other junk over it. Just a thought.

[Tanzverbot]

i am doing well, i am going to get my second engie medal ( i reached 100%)


This calls for celebration. Will there be cake?

[zaku212]

This calls for celebration. Will there be cake?

i bloody well hope so

[murka10]

This calls for a party. You will be baked and then there will be cake.

[zaku212]

unfortunately, all that there is now, is what i experience as connection problems. every 4-5 mins, the game disconnects. it happens only with etqw, not with cod5 or tf2. i need help

i've noticed that,it's a pity.:(

[whiteaden]

i've noticed that,it's a pity.:(

yeah, I noticed it too... 2 much pr0n?!

[zaku212]

yeah, I noticed it too... 2 much pr0n?!

nope just uploading all the vids of the amAAAAAAAAzing things he can do in fps games,for the premier of each i shall bring popcorn and a new pair of boxers in case i break my hole laughing. :P

[appleseed]

finaly CM have connection problem... thanks jeebus you made my dreams real...

[Don Zardeone]

CM should be our new mascot =D

[zaku212]

.
i can see that you view a lot of gay porn
yes i do(point being?)
no not really(sorry to get you excited crymaster,you homphobic moron)

i didnt know i was so important for you. i made your dreams come true cause know i cant kick your ass online as i used to be..so you might win an objective. well dont hope that it will last for long
you mean,you won't be able to whorespam a objective?,messing it up badly,getting it done in record bad time,heading to the next one,while bitching at your own team?,you do know most peeps i know have you text muted?

[kwisatz_haderach]

CM should be our new mascot =D

Tapirs are much more open minded... and polite... and cute :D

[zaku212]

Tapirs are much more open minded... and polite... and cute :D

and probably could post better things than cm anyday :P

[Basiley]

c'mon guys even im, which is [yop can blaw me, but i strongly sugest you against]im is as homophobopfile, find you firefighting - little exaustive.
at lease both of us - people, as i hope, we FEEL.
don't leet stroggs exploit scrathes Beyond humanity.
kill the alien scumm, not[anyway defferent pereferencied]anyone.

[whiteaden]

c'mon guys even im, which is [yop can blaw me, but i strongly sugest you against]im is as homophomobopfile, find you firefighting - little exaustive.
at lease both of us - people, as i hope, we FEEL.
don't leet stroggs exploit scrathes Beyond humanity.
kill the alien scumm, not[anyway defferent pereferencied]anyone.

homophomobopfile... awesome! *writes it down for hangman*

[Basiley]

homophomobopfile... awesome! *writes it down for hangman*

welcom.

p.s.
note:
orginal word intentionally misspeled to distinguish terms from sex-preferencies targed phobias, to this one , about toward humanity-related itself.

[zaku212]

welcom.

p.s.
note:
orginal word intentionally misspeled to distinguish terms from sex-preferencies targed phobias, to this one , about toward humanity-related itself.

sorry i've lost you there :o

[Szakalot]

i think he meant 'homosapiensphobia' but i have no idea how he came up with the other term and wth is he on about.

[Kalbuth]

I think he meant to differentiate misanthropist from homophobic, or something like that.

[Random Generator]

Фак мой мозг :o

[whiteaden]

Фак мой мозг :o

oak Nom More?!!

[zaku212]

o-k? *points over yonder hill* look it's cthulu

[Basiley]

I think he meant to differentiate misanthropist from homophobic, or something like that.

something like that.

[zaku212]

ok,i'm following now.... i think,i had to shift up a few intellectual gears to get that

[zaku212]

a website which is better to troll

Tehparadox.com

go there zuku and wank yourself silly
what are you there so i can kick your tiny intellectual ass there too?
i find it nice that you're leaving just as everyone has lost completely any respect for you,has you marked down on their mental lists as "a bit of a nutter",so please do as you said you would,go away,go play against the pc,enjoy the taste of a shallow victory time and time again,and go jack yourself off till death(which will happen while watching a porno involving pigs)
you're a homophobe,an idiot,you're stubborn as a retarded donkey,
and with all your failings,you cover them up with huge amounts of self denial

[bullrage]

man, you could just write protect engineers/constructors even if it cost your life :)