GDF win idea?

[Araziel]

I have some ideas to kick around with GDF experts and noobs. If you are a GDF fan and do not intend to spy for the Strogglets please post interest here and I'll introduce my ideas later.

[Verticae]

Please play online first?

[m1rra]

They crumble! :infiltrator:

[Szakalot]

hilarious thread.
i express interest in whatever uber tactics you might come up with.

[Turn_on_a_Dime]

How about you post your ideas NOW,
and we'll express our interest later?

and *ahem* no, we do not intend to spy for the strogglets
:infiltrator: :infiltrator: :infiltrator: :infiltrator: :infiltrator:

[ROCKING_RULDOLPH]

People have expressed interset. In differnt forms but they have expressed interst and no ideas have been posted :rolleyes: Ill spy for the Strogg :D :infiltrator: :infiltrator:

[whiteaden]

best tactic ever: join Strogg & hyperblast the GDF to hell :)

(works particularly good vs. bots)

[Araziel]

Everyone seems to think medics are the key to GDF victory right? Carry it to the logical extreme and go Cuban. One on One medics. FOr every non-medic have one medic. From there effective use of the fire teams is required. Use these to accomplish several objectives at once. For example on the Quarry map take a Field Ops a Covert Ops and their respective medics camp on the hill above the Strogg base spam them with arty and sniper fire, While at the same time take to soldiers with GPMGs and their medics camp them at the strogg forward spawn. To counter this you would have to kill all the non-medics which would theoritically be impossible with a medc for each person, or kill all the medics and if you try that the people with bigger and better guns slaughter you. The keys to GDF victory are a medic for each non-medic and the effective coordination of fire teams. Now please feel free to crucify me for noobiness and the idiocy of the above comments.

[Araziel]

Also use the vehicles the GDF have a large variety and are all incredibly powerful in the right hands.

[whiteaden]

Everyone seems to think medics are the key to GDF victory right? Carry it to the logical extreme and go Cuban. One on One medics. FOr every non-medic have one medic. From there effective use of the fire teams is required. Use these to accomplish several objectives at once. For example on the Quarry map take a Field Ops a Covert Ops and their respective medics camp on the hill above the Strogg base spam them with arty and sniper fire, While at the same time take to soldiers with GPMGs and their medics camp them at the strogg forward spawn. To counter this you would have to kill all the non-medics which would theoritically be impossible with a medc for each person, or kill all the medics and if you try that the people with bigger and better guns slaughter you. The keys to GDF victory are a medic for each non-medic and the effective coordination of fire teams. Now please feel free to crucify me for noobiness and the idiocy of the above comments.

- Icarus past both groups of campers & plant on the generator...

- take a hog & rush past the forward spawn campers...

- countersnipe the covert ops & Fieldops & walk out silently...

- ignore everyone and run...
- deploy a RADAR in your base, and you (strogg) will see the medics & their 'non-medic'counterparts... shoot them and walk out...

- deploy artillery in your base (your base has a built in AIT, so Fieldops can't hurt your deployables.

---- try to utilize this tactic in any PUB and you'll lose within 5 minutes :D

[Araziel]

Your going to have more than 8 people (hopefully if you don't your screwed one way or another). Leave them and their medics at the generator. You have four people on the hill GDF team is retarded ir they can't beat one sniper with two medics and one of each Ops (both have access to scoped weapons). On the last point I didn't realize that Strogg bases had AIT aswell. I thought it as just APT... Well I tried. Never claimed these would work just wanted to throw them around with other GDF players and do some brain storming.

[Szakalot]

you dont have enough data to... storm.
More medics than anything else is a good thing, but only when you got capable vehicle opreators.
If your titan and anansi suck,and strogg counterparts are effective, a pure medic team wont stand a chance. But if the titan can hold its own, you dont need anything but medics, anywhere. Medics are the ultimate anti-infantry class, lacking any kind of anti vehicle weaponry though.

And i wouldnt call husky incredibly powerful, regardless of the 'hands'

[Turn_on_a_Dime]

And i wouldnt call husky incredibly powerful
Awww...how could you say that!??? :(
I mean, it's the HUSKY...
It is the KEY to GDF victory.
It saves valuable seconds in getting to objectives ... and you can run people over with it :)

:oppressor:

[whiteaden]

Awww...how could you say that!??? :(
I mean, it's the HUSKY...
It is the KEY to GDF victory.
It saves valuable seconds in getting to objectives ... and you can run people over with it :)

:oppressor:

so does a hog.. and you can run vehicles over with a hog... :)

same with an icarus, and you can clear mines with an icarus

same with an Armadillo, and you can carry 5 in an armadillo

[Szakalot]

and all of those vehicles are faster.

[Araziel]

Didn't say pure medics. I said a medic for every non-medic as in only half the team is medics. Leaves room for the Rocket Launchers.

[Szakalot]

and i say its not enough. Pure medics cant be beaten by anything else, throwing skill out of the equation, in an infantry pure combat

[Verticae]

One medic for every non-medic would be fun if the game didn't have what's known as 'splash damage'.

[Turn_on_a_Dime]

so does a hog.. and you can run vehicles over with a hog...

same with an icarus, and you can clear mines with an icarus
I'm talking about the GDF specifically here, who have neither the hog's ram shield, nor the icarus' flying ability.
same with an Armadillo, and you can carry 5 in an armadillo
Yeah, but that is assuming that they all want to go to the same place, that the armadillo driver actually waits for people, and that one rocket doesn't blow half your team up afterwards
and all of those vehicles are faster.
But there are MORE huskies on a map - smart use of vehicles would be 2 people in an armadillo, 1 in an anasazi, 1 in a titan, 2 in individual huskies, and any remainders in a trojan - here the huskies are slightly, but not entirely, redundant, but this is only if ALL of these vehicles are present, which is not usually the case. HUSKIES are there most of the time, though. And they DO save you vital seconds in getting you EXACTLY where you want to go, without annoying your team by taking the armadillo for personal transport, while they may have wanted to get a gunner and wreak havoc on the Strogg! Muahahaha!

:oppressor:

[LighT_Sh4v0r]

1 in an anasazi

Where does it spawn?

[Araziel]

I was blooded yesterday. Got to a wi-fi spot and tried an online match. What I didn't realize is that my laptop battery had 10% power left, so after a minute it shut down the game and went into power saving. In that minute I deployed a radar because apparently the rest of that GDF team hadn't. I got my first and only kill so far, a team kill, because an idiot stood there and watched me throw grenades into a room and then ran in after them. This was all on the last objective of the Refinery map. I still think the keys to GDF victory are effective fireteams and half the team playing as medics.

[Szakalot]

having good players is the key to victory. There is no one factor that outrules the other key elements: even if you have godlike aim you wont win unless you know how to take your pliers out. Or move, since we are at it.

You will never be able to sumup what makes a win, and what creates a lose. You can present scenarios, and to that degree im behind you : more medics usually means a win. But if your getting vehicle-owned, no medics will help you out.

[Araziel]

Well I thought I'd put these out there. Thanks for the feedback even if it is mostly negative I'll keep jumping at my chances and eventually figure out something.

[Szakalot]

nothing wrong with posting ideas, but it gets dangerous when you boast and try to create a suspense about how good those ideas are. Imagine someone telling you they got a secret strategy to killing enemies faster, and it turns out its crouching to get better accuracy. Multiply that a dozen, a hundred times...

Additionally, the regular forumees are a bit sensitive over this kind of thing, since we had a guy raid the forums with countless 'everybody knows that' discoveries, and he was very agressive at that.

[Turn_on_a_Dime]

1 in an anasazi
Where does it spawn?
Who cares?
As I said - this was only an example of a perfect spawn, where all the vehicles are present - not something that happens a lot.

Long live the HUSKY!!
:dance: :dance:

[Araziel]

I'll remember that for the future. Atleast we managed a civil discussion with out any trolling.

[whiteaden]

I'll remember that for the future. Atleast we managed a civil discussion with out any trolling.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


:dance:

[Szakalot]

that aint troll, that is a strogg banana

[Araziel]

indeed it is. You guys want to see real trolling check out some of the threads on this site. it is another game I play.http://www.Shadowmere.de

[zaku212]

Everyone seems to think medics are the key to GDF victory right? Carry it to the logical extreme and go Cuban. One on One medics. FOr every non-medic have one medic. From there effective use of the fire teams is required. Use these to accomplish several objectives at once. For example on the Quarry map take a Field Ops a Covert Ops and their respective medics camp on the hill above the Strogg base spam them with arty and sniper fire, While at the same time take to soldiers with GPMGs and their medics camp them at the strogg forward spawn. To counter this you would have to kill all the non-medics which would theoritically be impossible with a medc for each person, or kill all the medics and if you try that the people with bigger and better guns slaughter you. The keys to GDF victory are a medic for each non-medic and the effective coordination of fire teams. Now please feel free to crucify me for noobiness and the idiocy of the above comments.

ask any medic in pub to follow you around he'll tell u to f off,as far as most peeps go they say f-ops can't shoot and covies don't do f-all cept hack and radar(if you're lucky) and if you're on about pro tactics the teams are 4v4 or 6v6 so it's medics and obj classes only usually

[zaku212]

so does a hog.. and you can run vehicles over with a hog... :)

same with an icarus, and you can clear mines with an icarus

same with an Armadillo, and you can carry 5 in an armadillo

i love hogses, one time i lannded on the titan and boom it go splode!!,then hopped out,hog bounces back off wall and mows me down lol

[zaku212]

since we had a guy raid the forums with countless 'everybody knows that' discoveries, and he was very agressive at that.

CM?
i kinda miss him, and his stupid,

MWAAAHAAAHAAAHAA triple post!!

[Turn_on_a_Dime]

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[Sgt.Smegma]

best way to a GDF-victory is to NOT loose!!!

besides that, the lack of medics sucks hard in this game. I don´t know why nobody wants to play the mighty medic... they´re not cursed or something. they are killers and very fun to play.
but who cares.... I don´t; that cirumstance doesn´t bother me too much... else I would quit playing qw.

Sgt.Smegma

[m1rra]

best way to a GDF-victory is to NOT loose!!!


Groundbreaking! I never thought it'd be so easy.

[Sgt.Smegma]

Groundbreaking! I never thought it'd be so easy.

originally it is not my tactics... I´m not that smart to create such a uber-tactic. I once heard it from crime-master, my personal tactic-advsior and mentor. :dance: :dance: :dance:

Sgt.:confused:

[BobMem]

I remember Crime Master, he was hilarious: "Check out my uber tactic that no-one's ever thought of before I'm the best and so 1337... ...what do you mean it's been around for ages and everyone knows how to counter it? TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL..."

And FYI. The Husky is the greatest GDF vehicle, second only to the hog overall. Vehicles with guns should be banned, ROADKILLS FTW!

BobMem.
330 Kills with Husky
9122 Hog XP

[Azuvector]

Been seeing this lately on a few servers. You'll get 2-3 people randomly chattering about who-knows-what usually too quiet to be heard constantly. Who's idea of teamwork tactics extends solely to telling everyone else on the team to vehicle rush constantly, and getting antsy whenever someone takes the vehicle they were waiting for, or calling out info with no positional relevance. "Watch out!" = Where, dumbass? Who are you talking to? "Left! Left! Left! Left! Left! Right! Left! Left!" = Holy shit, relative to where? You do know there're more directions into the objective than just two, right? Your left, my left? Why the hell are you repeating the same word incessantly? And why are you calling out info on the giant swarm of radar-visible enemies attacking in plain sight?
Saw this on Ark last night, as Strogg. Whole team vehicle rushing the first objective, no one even attempting an infantry hold of one of the buildings. Try it, just get shot by 2-3 GDF at once because no one on Strogg's even trying to do anything but cruise around in vehicles. Took 15 minutes to do the first objective. Then the mining laser was quick-constructed seconds after it deployed, due to the tormentor pilot bailing out on it. Final objective was completed with about 1 second to spare.

So here's your GDF-win tactic. Get a bunch've idiots on Strogg who have no idea what they're doing, and work them over on each objective rather than letting them zergrush-spam objectives.

...I needed to vent. :P

[BobMem]

Sounds like a GG moment to me...

:D

Or maybe the GDF team were just crappy at defending indoors and awesome outside, all vehicle spamming...

[Azuvector]

Sounds like a GG moment to me...

Nah, GG is a solid fight the whole way. Not a complete walkover one way for 15 minutes, a complete walkover the other way for 1, and a flukewin in the last 4.

[Araziel]

Any semi-competent GDF can work over Strogg in North Europe. It was designed that way so the GDF don't get dis-heartened and quit in droves...

[LighT_Sh4v0r]

Funny you mention North Europe. North Europe has Quarry. Not even a semi-competent GDF can walk over the Strogg on Quarry, unless the game is stacked to infinity.

[Turn_on_a_Dime]

The Husky is the greatest GDF vehicle
I salute you.

HUSKIES FTW!!
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