View Full Version : Earn good Xp!!!
Nuxil
06-29-2007, 01:02 AM
One of the best ways i found to earn good XP is to be the engineer|construor..
take a tank. if you are strogg not the walker.
it would we good if you have to hotkeys on you mouse to the repairing-tool/drone | Leatherman. and to exit vehicle "g" . '
since you be doing a lot of jumping in/out it's nice to have hotkeys!
once you see you only have 1/3 life left.. runoff or take cover. and start repairing. this is worth it espeasely if you got 2 hits in.. now. jump back in and get back to the fight. you will also gain a lot of rank in engineering
if you are doomd and the is no way you can repair . do a vehicle spawn.. i mean you die with the vehicle and hope no one beat you to it when you spawn at the base. :)
Dont rush to get the generator up if your GDF. you wount get as much XP in a fast round.. meaning few nounlocks
there are some cool unlocks imo, and i like the way the system is made..
Call me a statswhore if you like :p
Boinger
06-29-2007, 01:10 AM
the problem with this is your encouraging players to not fullfill the objectives... and/or vehicle camp
Nuxil
06-29-2007, 01:19 AM
? you are providing support. whats better than that? you actualy get lotz of Xp by repairing the vehicle that has been shoot by a enemy. "if you didnt notice". im not saying the you should give f*** about the Objectives.. all am saying is dont russ with the vehicle, you be dead quiet fast among good players.
How about this, it all depends on what the gdf are doing.
APT (anti-personel Turret): Extremely useful if they are rushing with lots of ground units, 1xp point per 3 second of repair (I THINK)
AVT (anti-vehicle Turret): Extremely useful if they are using alot of vehicles or icarus's. You keep this thing alive and u'll be racking up exp like THAT.
AAT (anti-artillery turret): Most xp gain POSSIBLE if they are using artillery alot. Keep this thing running while they are using xp constant and u'll hit the 400> mark.
Bullveyr
06-29-2007, 08:19 AM
forget XP, just do that what is best for your team
b0rsuk
06-29-2007, 08:31 AM
This may be an indication that XP rewards for primary objectives need to be increased. And introduce penalties for people who teamkill to make sure no one else can make the objective. (Ever met people who disarm your dynamite at commandpost to plant theirs ?)
RoboDuck
06-29-2007, 09:17 AM
the problem with this is your encouraging players to not fullfill the objectives... and/or vehicle camp
exactly that's why it needs to be fixed currently only real way to get the higher unlocks is to be a stats whore while the game is supposed to PROMOTE teamwork:mad:
reyalp
06-29-2007, 09:29 AM
if you are doomd and the is no way you can repair . do a vehicle spawn.. i mean you die with the vehicle and hope no one beat you to it when you spawn at the base. :)
This doesn't work with the heavy vehicles, since their respawn time is significantly longer than the player spawn. Better to jump out and fight for another spawn wave of two.
paZifist
06-29-2007, 11:38 AM
i also got ALOT of XP for planting plasmacharges on everything on my way ;) Destroying every back for the GDF. Its really nice because on the Uphill spawn they all directly run for the EMP Disruptor and i can easily plant plasmacharges everywhere ;)
I also think the main objektives should be more XP rewarding so people are trying harder to get objectives completed!
Yeh objective completion doens't yield enough xp.
Cerci
06-29-2007, 05:56 PM
Or rather, engineer duties yield too much XP. It's far too easy to break the 500xp mark over 3 20 minute rounds as an engineer.
As a medic breaking 500xp would require you to be some kind of God.
This may be an indication that XP rewards for primary objectives need to be increased. And introduce penalties for people who teamkill to make sure no one else can make the objective. (Ever met people who disarm your dynamite at commandpost to plant theirs ?)
I once had someone TK me at the sewer controls, presumably so they could hack it themselves and get all the EXP.
RoboDuck
06-29-2007, 06:56 PM
I once had someone TK me at the sewer controls, presumably so they could hack it themselves and get all the EXP.
omg...
really this stats thing maybe isn't a good idea lol... game is supposed to promote teamwork even regarding stats... but instead you get people killing you for stats and XP:( and the most needed classes like medics stay behind on XP:rolleyes:
Hakuryu
06-29-2007, 07:04 PM
I whore the Titan alot, usually going along the upper left side of the map and overlooking the EMP area. I get lots of kills, and prioritize killing any APT's around the objective, shooting the obj itself to clear mines, and then killing any Cyclops and players. I jump out to repair to keep me going, more than XP whoring, but in effect I can rack up quite alot of Engy XP.
I can keep down 4+ turrets, 2 Cyclops, and multiple enemy players easily, and if you don't think that is helping your team...you are wrong.
Only 2 things can stop me - a very good flyer pilot that can avoid me shooting them out of the air, and plasma mortars ( but you can find spots where the projectile will hit a tree and a not you).
J-Mag
06-29-2007, 07:05 PM
I once had someone TK me at the sewer controls, presumably so they could hack it themselves and get all the EXP.
Do you get assist xp for helping someone Hack or build the objective?
b0rsuk
06-29-2007, 08:28 PM
By the way: Objective XP should be halved if you teamkilled someone in last 3 minutes.
This should make sure that players don't teamkill to hog objectives to themselves. This is counterproductive. Sometimes it could hurt honest players, but not that often.
PariahMessiah
06-30-2007, 01:07 AM
Do you get assist xp for helping someone Hack or build the objective?
Hacking and building seem to give you partial XP as you go. Like if one engy builds the EMP to 50 percent, has a heart attack and dies, he gets 5 XP then you come in a finish you get 5.
mwll|aop
06-30-2007, 01:58 AM
I can keep down 4+ turrets, 2 Cyclops, and multiple enemy players easily,
Congrats. Most can't and still keep camping all over the place and whoring vehicles instead of going for the objective.
Congrats. Most can't and still keep camping all over the place and whoring vehicles instead of going for the objective.
Whoring vehicles? How does that work? Is someone who is standing on the emp with the cyclops whoring it? Is someone perched upon the ridge with the tank whoring it? I can't even being to understand where you could apply that term. Its hard to imagine a scenario where killing people with a large vehicle is selfish and determental to your team (with the exception of strogg at #3 objective)
qq more
RoboDuck
06-30-2007, 09:19 AM
I whore the Titan alot, usually going along the upper left side of the map and overlooking the EMP area. I get lots of kills, and prioritize killing any APT's around the objective, shooting the obj itself to clear mines, and then killing any Cyclops and players. I jump out to repair to keep me going, more than XP whoring, but in effect I can rack up quite alot of Engy XP.
I can keep down 4+ turrets, 2 Cyclops, and multiple enemy players easily, and if you don't think that is helping your team...you are wrong.
Only 2 things can stop me - a very good flyer pilot that can avoid me shooting them out of the air, and plasma mortars ( but you can find spots where the projectile will hit a tree and a not you).
that way you are basicly a big scary artillery unit more annoying then a Hammer and unstoppable by AIT's and as long as you can get kills instead of camping and dieing and keep the stroggies away from the team then yeah you are helping the teamm.... some random covert ops hacking turrets where nobody gets near to doesn't really help:rolleyes:
also about that tking less XP thing... better would be if you tked in a small area around the objective only then you should get less XP for doing it
b0rsuk
06-30-2007, 11:17 AM
also about that tking less XP thing... better would be if you tked in a small area around the objective only then you should get less XP for doing it
Makes sense.
But I guess it would have to be objective dependant. If I teamkill a soldier near sever controls, it's bad, but most likely accidental*. There's no way you can 'accuse him of stealing my xp'. Teamkilling the needed class is much more evil. Sorry for being so picky, but scripts/computers work like that, they take everything literally.
mwll|aop
06-30-2007, 02:19 PM
Whoring vehicles? How does that work? Is someone who is standing on the emp with the cyclops whoring it?
If he's constantly shooting the forward spawn instead of keeping an eye on the disruptor - yes it is. Otherwise, this is an excellent yet rather easy to counter defense.
You might have noticed though, I spoke of 'going for the objective' which should have indicated I'm talking about GDF mostly. Wasting Strogg vehicles is hardly possibly on this map, anything that keeps GDF busy is helpful.
Is someone perched upon the ridge with the tank whoring it?
Depends on his success, easy as that.
If he's not hitting shit with it - yes. If he's focusing on chasing infantry instead of at least attempting to take down one of the two cyclopses that are blowing GDF engineers to hell in bulk, yes, he's whoring it.
If he's not shooting the two APT-turrets that are facing the disruptor, completely making it impossible to get to that thing - yes, he's whoring it.
A good titan driver can have massive positive impact on the success of GDF - a bad titan driver means a wasted slot on the server and a wasted valueable asset.
selfinfliction
06-30-2007, 08:40 PM
forget XP, just do that what is best for your team
xp is the reason for ranked servers. so people can track... i think they should throw it all in the garbage becuase no matter what is done to attempt people form sitting around and stat padding, it will not keep people from doing it
Kotoko
06-30-2007, 09:28 PM
XP is also a good way to keep the game fresh for players.
space
07-01-2007, 12:11 AM
You should not get XP for repairing a vehicle which you were the last to drive. I like to run a tank as GDF to get some good cover in there for the engi's, and I have to say you do level up fast repairing your own vehicle. I'm not really for or against, but I do see it as a way to XP whore in clan macthes (if vehicles make it into clan macthes).
PariahMessiah
07-01-2007, 12:50 AM
XP probably won't even make it into clan matches.
styfle
07-01-2007, 02:05 AM
one word for a lot of xp:
engineer
havocAz
07-01-2007, 03:07 PM
Thats rediculous people killing you to get the objective, im glad i have NEVER seen something like that.
.Dark
07-01-2007, 03:18 PM
If you're playing for XP and not for the objective (read: objectives win games, not XP) then your easiest options are hacking deployables or Strogg Technician with Icarus. 600xp in 3 rounds, easy peesy.
My highest is 525xp in 3 rounds; last round only lasted 5 mins.
E-peen posts. Got to love them.
Boinger
07-01-2007, 04:05 PM
the prob with vehicles is that idiots take the tank and camp above the strogg spawn (pretty useless you can get out easily) instead of doing the objective... that makes us down 1 man so yes its deterimental to the team
RoachMoteL
08-10-2007, 06:31 PM
You should not get XP for repairing a vehicle which you were the last to drive. I like to run a tank as GDF to get some good cover in there for the engi's, and I have to say you do level up fast repairing your own vehicle. I'm not really for or against, but I do see it as a way to XP whore in clan macthes (if vehicles make it into clan macthes).
Why would you XP whore in a clan match? Definately not getting an invite to my clan.
artaxerxes
08-11-2007, 07:09 PM
575
Desecrator at the bottom of the road, after the tunnel, barely in range, seige mode, spamming the MCP. Flanked by an anti artillery turret.
Vampire or someone sneaking round behind me in the APC? Didn't get me.
Being run over and team killed by a Hog when repairing my desecrator? Thats the one. MCP straight into the Objective seconds later :)
Katana
08-12-2007, 04:16 PM
Why would you XP whore in a clan match? Definately not getting an invite to my clan.
cant understand that one either..
770+ is my max xp in a champaign, playing around with the hog