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Hakuryu · 06-22-2007, 08:14 PM

Covert is my favorite class, so I'll share a few of my tricks and just general knowledge.

Strogg - Flyer Drone, Teleporter

Ah the Flyer Drone. One of the GDF's most hated things to see. Many ways to use this, but most simply try and find a spot to hide their body, and go fly it around looking for kills. A great spot for this on Sewer is the upper Strogg only entrance... look for a ladder on the wall within the Strogg base, go up and follow the path, you'll see a side shielded door to your left high up the wall. This spot can only be breached by a GDF Covert in disquise that takes a long time to traverse, so it's usually safe to camp in the upper tunnels.

Go prone when using the Flyer Drone. That way if it's destroyed you won't move forward when it switches you back to player mode.

Another good use of the Drone is in battle. Simply run around a corner from a pursuer, bust out the Drone and fly it back at him. Catches 99% of people by surprise.

The Teleporter is an under used piece of gold. Allowing you to reach areas others can't or unless they have an Icarus, you can find some mighty fine camping spots. Upon entering the inside part of Sewer, there is a ledge above the doorways... I love teleporting up there and camping any GDF entering the area... they never notice me til it's too late.

The Teleporter can also be used as a quick escape tool. Toss it near the hack objective, then run out and fight GDF...they about to kill you? Simply teleport to safety, get some Stroyent, and repeat.

Last but not least, flanking. In a gunfight with a GDF, shoot the beacon past them, teleport and then own them from behind.

GDF - 3rd Eye Camera

While most people love the Flyer Drone, I think the 3rd Eye Camera is much better. It has radar built into it, act's like a triggered grenade, and is very unobtrusive.

The radar can be used effectively since Strogg never notice the camera (throw it somewhere high) inside areas like Sewer, but it also can be used quite sneakily. If you managed to get into the Sewer and are about to hack, but Strogg are around... throw the 3rd Eye against the wall to the back, and then start hacking while watching the radar for nearby enemies. When they come for you, switch back to the 3rd eye and explode it... the only place Strogg can see you hacking is where the explosion will go off. Takes some time to perfect, but very effective when you get the hang of it.

Another sneaky way to use the camera is to simply throw it where you know Strogg will pass... and then wait til the opportune moment and destroy it with them in the blast radius. Spots like outside the shield they all run out of int he beggining, or those circular shielded tunnels that they mostly come into the sewer area from.

Other Notes:

Strogg Coverts can hack GDF base doors.
GDF Coverts in uniform can pass Strogg shield walls unharmed.
Mines are not triggered by a Covert in disquise.
Hacking deployable is mega-XP, like 4-7 per hack. Grab an Icarus and go behind enemy lines to gain some levels.
The ONLY way to tell for certain a Covert is in disquise is by their heavy breathing when they run alot. You show up on radar as friendly and look exactly like the enemy in every detail. In disquise make sure you let off sprint every now and then so your breathing doesn't give you away.

Dzhezkov · 06-22-2007, 08:23 PM

I'm starting to dislike this forum, giving away all the nifty tricks. I thought i was the only one to use the teleporter in game, haha, best kept secret in the demo imho.

RoboDuck · 06-22-2007, 08:47 PM

lol nice tips

forn1x · 06-22-2007, 08:50 PM

Nice tips. Since the beta is brand new a lot of people haven't gotten used to the flying drones. I used it in the sewers once and I literally had 2 guys just stare at it for a few seconds as I flew it in between them......

murphIV · 06-22-2007, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dzhezkov

I'm starting to dislike this forum, giving away all the nifty tricks. I thought i was the only one to use the teleporter in game, haha, best kept secret in the demo imho.

yeah man you were the only one who figured it out, shhhhhh keep it on the DL.

Dzhezkov · 06-22-2007, 11:23 PM

I've still never seen someone else use it in game, ever.

FrostByte · 06-22-2007, 11:57 PM

i took out 30 people with the flyer who were trying to hack the sewers with it last night.

.:|JYD|:.Mr Feelgood · 06-23-2007, 05:47 AM

Gotten many promotions killing with the Strogg drone.

That and the technician are my favorite classes. Very cool converting a human body into a Stroog spawn.

CarRamrod · 06-23-2007, 06:02 AM

Drones are the shit when it comes to defending the sewers. I hate that I am starting to see more poeple use them.

b0rsuk · 06-23-2007, 06:48 AM

Is the Smoke Grenade still in the game ?! I can't find anyone mentioning it. No smoke grenades in screenshots, videos. Nowhere.

un1zo. · 06-23-2007, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dzhezkov

I'm starting to dislike this forum, giving away all the nifty tricks. I thought i was the only one to use the teleporter in game, haha, best kept secret in the demo imho.

BETA! YARGH!

Lekdevil.NL · 06-23-2007, 10:09 AM

Another way to use the 3rd eye camera is to drop it close to a "destroy" objective (like the sewer grates) when a soldier arms a charge there. Then fall back. If the Strogg manage to reach the charge and their Constructors try to disarm it, detonate the 3rd eye camera. Boom!

And yes, Coverts do have smoke grenades.

Lekane · 06-23-2007, 01:48 PM

Also, there is no range limit to teletransporter, i tried from one corner of the map to the other, it worked

gamma · 06-23-2007, 02:09 PM

you all forgot to mentoin the gdf emp grenade. you can realy have fun with that baby, if there is a tomentor messing around with your team get a high spot, cook a nice emp for em and throw it in thier face

. its quite funny to watch em fall to the ground helplessly. not many people no about them or use them i only found out yesterday.

madhaha · 06-24-2007, 10:33 PM

Both sides get EMP/Scrambler grenades.

Stinger911 · 06-28-2007, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Hakuryu

The ONLY way to tell for certain a Covert is in disquise is by their heavy breathing when they run alot. You show up on radar as friendly and look exactly like the enemy in every detail. In disquise make sure you let off sprint every now and then so your breathing doesn't give you away.

ROFL! So THIS is why I got blasted last night when I was amongst the GDF ranks. I don't know why, but the thought of getting discovered because I'm panting like a warthog is pretty damn funny.

RoboDuck · 06-28-2007, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Stinger911

ROFL! So THIS is why I got blasted last night when I was amongst the GDF ranks. I don't know why, but the thought of getting discovered because I'm panting like a warthog is pretty damn funny.

also could happen when you were acting suspicous

today nailed about 2 or 3 coverts in disguise while I was Constructor... first was disguised as technician.. I kept using V say : Need Stroyent but he wouldnt give and he kept switching between spikes and lacerator but nothing else(which are btw the only things a Disguised covert can keep in hand while under disguise)

then shot him once and he still wouldnt gimme... so I shot him again when he was running away saw a red circle indicating that I was indeed shooting an enemy then followed the green indicator on top of his until he came back then shot his ass

second time was guy staying right behand a tech's back and spotted him while he was trying to knife the tech... didnt work though but in the firefight I shot both him and the tech

Also I think you can also spot disguised people by their walk... at least I read somewhere once that Strogg and GDF both WALK differently including when disguised... so if you carefully monitor real teammates walks and suspicious guys you might notice it then kill him!

alucardx · 06-28-2007, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by b0rsuk

Is the Smoke Grenade still in the game ?! I can't find anyone mentioning it. No smoke grenades in screenshots, videos. Nowhere.

only the GDF has smoke.

Szakalot · 06-28-2007, 08:28 PM

and this smoke sucks ass might i add. Its completely ineffective, W:ET smoke grenade was much better.

Mithikal · 06-28-2007, 08:42 PM

It might be useful if you drop it ontop of a teammates mine, however yes it is pretty useless as you can see through it quite well or just jump through in a second or two.

Reiver · 06-28-2007, 11:49 PM

ET smoke was downright nasty, throwing one into the guns on oasis when they had an armed plant and watching axis engineers panic over where the plant was was quite entertaining. Be interesting to see if smoke and some of the other features become even more useful when some of the other maps appear.

paZifist · 06-29-2007, 11:46 AM

these strogg drones start to annoy me. i got catched about 5 Times yesterday and it sucks

Is their anymay to disable them? Like EMP Nades? So they fall to ground? I have tried shooting them but it seems useless.

Kekzor · 06-29-2007, 08:17 PM

Simply shoot it.. and the Infiltrator will take damage as well.

Demolama · 06-29-2007, 08:31 PM

smoke grenade is worthless in this game for one reason... the big red triangles over the enemies head... doesnt matter how thick or big you make it... if you can still see triangles you know where to shoot

SunChips · 06-29-2007, 10:10 PM

Another way to tell an infiltrator is that their icon in the minimap doesn't rotate. I'm pretty sure it's a bug, but nonetheless it works.

06-22-2007, 08:14 PM	#1
Hakuryu 3rd Lieutenant Join Date: May 2007 Location: Cleveland, OH	Using Covert Op's toys effectively Covert is my favorite class, so I'll share a few of my tricks and just general knowledge. Strogg - Flyer Drone, Teleporter Ah the Flyer Drone. One of the GDF's most hated things to see. Many ways to use this, but most simply try and find a spot to hide their body, and go fly it around looking for kills. A great spot for this on Sewer is the upper Strogg only entrance... look for a ladder on the wall within the Strogg base, go up and follow the path, you'll see a side shielded door to your left high up the wall. This spot can only be breached by a GDF Covert in disquise that takes a long time to traverse, so it's usually safe to camp in the upper tunnels. Go prone when using the Flyer Drone. That way if it's destroyed you won't move forward when it switches you back to player mode. Another good use of the Drone is in battle. Simply run around a corner from a pursuer, bust out the Drone and fly it back at him. Catches 99% of people by surprise. The Teleporter is an under used piece of gold. Allowing you to reach areas others can't or unless they have an Icarus, you can find some mighty fine camping spots. Upon entering the inside part of Sewer, there is a ledge above the doorways... I love teleporting up there and camping any GDF entering the area... they never notice me til it's too late. The Teleporter can also be used as a quick escape tool. Toss it near the hack objective, then run out and fight GDF...they about to kill you? Simply teleport to safety, get some Stroyent, and repeat. Last but not least, flanking. In a gunfight with a GDF, shoot the beacon past them, teleport and then own them from behind. GDF - 3rd Eye Camera While most people love the Flyer Drone, I think the 3rd Eye Camera is much better. It has radar built into it, act's like a triggered grenade, and is very unobtrusive. The radar can be used effectively since Strogg never notice the camera (throw it somewhere high) inside areas like Sewer, but it also can be used quite sneakily. If you managed to get into the Sewer and are about to hack, but Strogg are around... throw the 3rd Eye against the wall to the back, and then start hacking while watching the radar for nearby enemies. When they come for you, switch back to the 3rd eye and explode it... the only place Strogg can see you hacking is where the explosion will go off. Takes some time to perfect, but very effective when you get the hang of it. Another sneaky way to use the camera is to simply throw it where you know Strogg will pass... and then wait til the opportune moment and destroy it with them in the blast radius. Spots like outside the shield they all run out of int he beggining, or those circular shielded tunnels that they mostly come into the sewer area from. Other Notes: Strogg Coverts can hack GDF base doors. GDF Coverts in uniform can pass Strogg shield walls unharmed. Mines are not triggered by a Covert in disquise. Hacking deployable is mega-XP, like 4-7 per hack. Grab an Icarus and go behind enemy lines to gain some levels. The ONLY way to tell for certain a Covert is in disquise is by their heavy breathing when they run alot. You show up on radar as friendly and look exactly like the enemy in every detail. In disquise make sure you let off sprint every now and then so your breathing doesn't give you away. __________________ My very old Tribes mod Last edited by Hakuryu : 06-22-2007 at 08:16 PM.

06-22-2007, 08:23 PM	#2
Dzhezkov First Sergeant Join Date: May 2007	I'm starting to dislike this forum, giving away all the nifty tricks. I thought i was the only one to use the teleporter in game, haha, best kept secret in the demo imho. __________________

06-22-2007, 08:50 PM	#4
forn1x Gunnery Sergeant Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kentucky	Nice tips. Since the beta is brand new a lot of people haven't gotten used to the flying drones. I used it in the sewers once and I literally had 2 guys just stare at it for a few seconds as I flew it in between them...... __________________

06-22-2007, 11:23 PM	#6
Dzhezkov First Sergeant Join Date: May 2007	I've still never seen someone else use it in game, ever. __________________

06-23-2007, 05:47 AM	#8
.:\|JYD\|:.Mr Feelgood Master Sergeant Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida, USA	Gotten many promotions killing with the Strogg drone. That and the technician are my favorite classes. Very cool converting a human body into a Stroog spawn. __________________ Junk Yard Dawgz ET Server : et.clanjyd.com -- ETQW Ranked Server USA: qw.clanjyd.com Counter Strike Source: >>CONNECT<< Team Fortress 2: >>CONNECT<<

06-22-2007, 08:47 PM	#3
RoboDuck Lieutenant Major Join Date: May 2007	lol nice tips

06-22-2007, 11:57 PM	#7
FrostByte Private Join Date: May 2007	i took out 30 people with the flyer who were trying to hack the sewers with it last night.

06-23-2007, 06:02 AM	#9
CarRamrod 2nd Lieutenant Join Date: Jun 2007	Drones are the shit when it comes to defending the sewers. I hate that I am starting to see more poeple use them.

06-23-2007, 06:48 AM	#10
b0rsuk Commander Join Date: May 2007 Location: Poland	Is the Smoke Grenade still in the game ?! I can't find anyone mentioning it. No smoke grenades in screenshots, videos. Nowhere. __________________

06-23-2007, 10:09 AM	#12
Lekdevil.NL Global Volunteer Force Join Date: May 2007	Another way to use the 3rd eye camera is to drop it close to a "destroy" objective (like the sewer grates) when a soldier arms a charge there. Then fall back. If the Strogg manage to reach the charge and their Constructors try to disarm it, detonate the 3rd eye camera. Boom! And yes, Coverts do have smoke grenades.

06-23-2007, 01:48 PM	#13
Lekane Master Chief Join Date: May 2007	Also, there is no range limit to teletransporter, i tried from one corner of the map to the other, it worked __________________ The Moon Campain

06-23-2007, 02:09 PM	#14
gamma Lieutenant Commander Join Date: May 2007	you all forgot to mentoin the gdf emp grenade. you can realy have fun with that baby, if there is a tomentor messing around with your team get a high spot, cook a nice emp for em and throw it in thier face . its quite funny to watch em fall to the ground helplessly. not many people no about them or use them i only found out yesterday.

06-24-2007, 10:33 PM	#15
madhaha Gunnery Sergeant Join Date: Jun 2007	Both sides get EMP/Scrambler grenades.

06-28-2007, 08:28 PM	#19
Szakalot Commander General Join Date: May 2007 Location: Netherlands	and this smoke sucks ass might i add. Its completely ineffective, W:ET smoke grenade was much better. __________________ I started playing PacMan when i was 5 now i eat every white dot i see - Sublim3 All we need now is a post from Basiley and the English lesson is complete - BobMeM he was Makron Jackson!!! - NJ_Dude I do not need a quote to sound cool, i can just as well quote myself - Szakalot

06-28-2007, 08:42 PM	#20
Mithikal Master Chief Join Date: May 2007 Location: London, England	It might be useful if you drop it ontop of a teammates mine, however yes it is pretty useless as you can see through it quite well or just jump through in a second or two. __________________

06-28-2007, 11:49 PM	#21
Reiver Master Sergeant Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Depends where the sheep are.	ET smoke was downright nasty, throwing one into the guns on oasis when they had an armed plant and watching axis engineers panic over where the plant was was quite entertaining. Be interesting to see if smoke and some of the other features become even more useful when some of the other maps appear.

06-29-2007, 11:46 AM	#22
paZifist Master Chief Join Date: May 2007 Location: Germany	these strogg drones start to annoy me. i got catched about 5 Times yesterday and it sucks Is their anymay to disable them? Like EMP Nades? So they fall to ground? I have tried shooting them but it seems useless. __________________ inquake.de/paZifist AMD x2 4200+, 2GB Kingston HyperX, XFX Geforce 7900GT AND FPS Drops

06-29-2007, 08:17 PM	#23
Kekzor Lance Corporal Join Date: May 2007	Simply shoot it.. and the Infiltrator will take damage as well.

06-29-2007, 08:31 PM	#24
Demolama Gunnery Sergeant Join Date: May 2007	smoke grenade is worthless in this game for one reason... the big red triangles over the enemies head... doesnt matter how thick or big you make it... if you can still see triangles you know where to shoot __________________ #noremorse @ gamesurge #noremorse.et @ quakenet Lamapro creator for W:ET.

06-29-2007, 10:10 PM	#25
SunChips Lance Corporal Join Date: Jun 2007	Another way to tell an infiltrator is that their icon in the minimap doesn't rotate. I'm pretty sure it's a bug, but nonetheless it works.