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Old 06-23-2007, 11:41 PM   #1
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Default Identifing undercover Covert Ops/Infiltrators

is there a way? do they look different? been playing for a while now and I Can't find any way to identify them
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Old 06-24-2007, 12:04 AM   #2
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Main way to identify them is through their actions. Undercover players tend to avoid shooting(it blows their cover immidiately) and not to run too long(human breathing is not too similar with those of the strogg, it can cause suspicion).
Watch out for your back: almost everyone of them tries to atttack you if you seem careless and alone, so you can try to provoke person you suspect.
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Old 06-24-2007, 12:39 AM   #3
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i had this earlier,he was on me like cack ,outa nowhere
thnks ill use this info
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Old 06-24-2007, 01:37 AM   #4
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When you aim at them it shows your name not theirs. Still hard to catch a good spy though.
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Old 06-24-2007, 02:01 AM   #5
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When you aim at them it shows your name not theirs. Still hard to catch a good spy though.
cool that helps out a lot
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Old 06-24-2007, 02:48 AM   #6
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When you aim at them it shows your name not theirs. Still hard to catch a good spy though.
Not true. It shows the name of the person's uniform they took.
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Old 06-24-2007, 02:50 AM   #7
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the way i caught one was he killed me and used me to take my identity and i saw it on death cam and when i respawned i knew where he was and i killed him then he called me a hack lol funny
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Old 06-24-2007, 02:55 AM   #8
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+ They cant take your ammo or meds and if you shoot them in the foot you get real hitreg.
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Old 06-24-2007, 03:07 AM   #9
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Spies are really annoying when you're trying to construct the EMP lol....
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Old 06-24-2007, 03:15 AM   #10
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I think they still retain the red arrow above their head too, not sure though.
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Old 06-24-2007, 03:28 AM   #11
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I think they still retain the red arrow above their head too, not sure though.
Newp.

#2 has it right, watching their actions or lay down health is the best way. The obvious one (which happened to me today) is when you see your name above them.
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Old 06-24-2007, 03:44 AM   #12
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You'll probably see them if they jack your corpse...when they do? SOUND OFF! Tell your team where the guy went undercover, and stay out of that area for a little bit. (Inefficient, but sometimes necessary, especially if the guy is good.)
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Old 06-24-2007, 04:54 AM   #13
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1. If they are breathing heavy, it will be their team breathing - Strogg sounds for Strogg in disquise for example.
2. If they fall far enough to be damaged, they will make their team sound like #1.
3. They can only wield a melee and rifle weapon. Be suspicious of your team players running with the knife out. If you see someone with a handgun, they are not in disquise.
4. If you see your name on an enemy, they are in disquise.
5. If you are a Technician, and you throw health at a guy that needs it but it goes right through him... he's in disquise. Same use on GDF side. On the same note, if you see a damaged friendly avoid stroyent/medpacks when they could use it... probably a disquised enemy.
6. Same as #5 for GDF but with a Field Ops throwing ammo.
7.If you see a teammate get 'startled' by a mine, this tips me off occasionally. They won't set it off (in disquise), but human reaction is to jump back.
8. Is someone hanging around you? In a pub this just might be an enemy in disquise. I try and act noobish if someone notices me hanging around them... looking at the ceiling/etc, walking slowly and crouching and stuff
9. Certain spots just cry out enemy in disquise. The last capturable spawn for the GDF in Sewer, if you notice someone hanging around it, especially to the side of it... they are probably taking the spawn.
10. Lastly, a teammate of your's hanging around with the enemy and not being shot at by them is an enemy is disquise. If you know your at the front of a spawn wave and see a friendly just sitting by the objective... that's me waiting for you to turn your back
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Old 06-24-2007, 06:46 AM   #14
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3. They can only wield a melee and rifle weapon. Be suspicious of your team players running with the knife out. If you see someone with a handgun, they are not in disquise.
Are you sure about this ? I'm pretty sure I'm able to select a fake pistol in disguise.
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Checked and they only get the lacerator/ar and spikes/knife.

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when all else fails, there's the hitsound. If you shoot a disguised spy, you get the normal enemy damage sound and flash.

There are some things you can do to assure your teammates you are NOT a spy. Fire a weapon (strogg blaster is good, since it uses no ammo), or show your class special (medpack/ammo/hacker/etc).

Note that if someone takes YOUR uniform, you can hunt them down across the map, because they show up on friendly radar (unless it's a GDF with the radar jammer upgrade). I'm pretty sure the jammer itself is a giveaway, because they don't show up on the minimap at all.

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Old 06-24-2007, 06:52 AM   #15
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1. If they are breathing heavy, it will be their team breathing - Strogg sounds for Strogg in disquise for example.
2. If they fall far enough to be damaged, they will make their team sound like #1.
3. They can only wield a melee and rifle weapon. Be suspicious of your team players running with the knife out. If you see someone with a handgun, they are not in disquise.
4. If you see your name on an enemy, they are in disquise.
5. If you are a Technician, and you throw health at a guy that needs it but it goes right through him... he's in disquise. Same use on GDF side. On the same note, if you see a damaged friendly avoid stroyent/medpacks when they could use it... probably a disquised enemy.
6. Same as #5 for GDF but with a Field Ops throwing ammo.
7.If you see a teammate get 'startled' by a mine, this tips me off occasionally. They won't set it off (in disquise), but human reaction is to jump back.
8. Is someone hanging around you? In a pub this just might be an enemy in disquise. I try and act noobish if someone notices me hanging around them... looking at the ceiling/etc, walking slowly and crouching and stuff
9. Certain spots just cry out enemy in disquise. The last capturable spawn for the GDF in Sewer, if you notice someone hanging around it, especially to the side of it... they are probably taking the spawn.
10. Lastly, a teammate of your's hanging around with the enemy and not being shot at by them is an enemy is disquise. If you know your at the front of a spawn wave and see a friendly just sitting by the objective... that's me waiting for you to turn your back
Excellent tips guys, keep 'em coming.
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Old 06-24-2007, 07:52 AM   #16
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Help a noob out guys.

How do I change uniforms and do this? I saw some people doing this earlier but I never figured it out.
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Old 06-24-2007, 09:07 AM   #17
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haven't played it yet but im taking if FF was off and you through a grenade at them and they dodge it as quickly as they can, there probably in disguise.

That leads me to this as well, If they get damaged/hurt do they lose disguise?
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Old 06-24-2007, 09:53 AM   #18
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That leads me to this as well, If they get damaged/hurt do they lose disguise?
nope

also from the 10 or so hours I've played ff is always on
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Old 06-24-2007, 01:07 PM   #19
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hahah i love the covertops class, its so much fun to muckaround with on w:et when ur after a not to seroius game.
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Old 06-24-2007, 01:11 PM   #20
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Disguising is awesome.

Nice tips in here guys, I shouldn't encourage it since it makes people more likely to realise that I'm about to stab them in the back!
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Old 06-24-2007, 06:05 PM   #21
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Can anyone tell me if you can still use that cheap fire team indicator to foil disguises, because that would suck to be honest.
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Old 06-24-2007, 07:30 PM   #22
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Yea that works too, forgot about it. If the friendly you see is listed in your fireteam, but doesn't show the white circle... it's an enemy in disquise.
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Old 06-24-2007, 08:21 PM   #23
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Wow, talk about unexpected.

Since you are obviously monitoring this thread MoP, can you tell us if this will stay? Fire teams surely were never meant to be a tool to detect disguised players, just make the disguised player have an indicator as well, if the guy who's uniform he stole was in the fire team in the first place.
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Old 06-24-2007, 08:48 PM   #24
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I think it's fine the way it is. It's almost like asking for the disguised covert opts to change name on the fly so the guy you stole from can't see his name. If you are in a fireteam and you die, it makes sense that your fireteam is aware that their teammate died and that guy over there with his name is not really him. A fire team has what, 6 players? that's not much to worry about tbh, specially at the speed of this game :0
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Old 06-24-2007, 09:00 PM   #25
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I normally shoot my teammates by the sewer controls - three times it has been someone in disguise waiting for me to leave them alone to hack!

After shooting them i give them stroyent - or if they shoot back i know they arent disguise
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